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Sportster_mann
Posted on Saturday, May 15, 2010 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Took delivery of my 2010 CR in January. Normally I always check and copper grease the axles to stop them seizing, but didn't do the CR as we had a particularly cold spell in the UK, by the time the weather had improved I had forgotten all about it.

So I had a rear puncture this week - tried to take the wheel out today and guess what, the axle is seized to the bearings - all it is doing is spreading the swingarm when I try to remove the axle. I suspect that it's the third inner bearing that's at fault. So now I'm going to have to get the dealer to pick it up and sort it out - but at least they can do the stator update at the same time.

So remember to make sure that your axles are adequately greased - they never seem to put much on at the factory.
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Avalaugh
Posted on Saturday, May 15, 2010 - 07:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I love a bit of copper grease, i whack it on most threads, miricle stuff : )

Why is the factory grease silver, is it a alloy type grease
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, May 15, 2010 - 07:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The factory silver is anti-seize, not a grease per se.
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Ccryder
Posted on Saturday, May 15, 2010 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a ST1300 (Pan European) that had a seized rear axle, like your CR. A few taps, raps, smacks with a deadblow hammer broke it loose. Guess what, the two bearing in the inner hub were compromised. Less than 2,000 miles later they were making noise and needed replacing.

I can't tell if this will be your case, just something to watch out for as the miles roll up.

Neil S.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Saturday, May 15, 2010 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Who makes this copper grease, is it like Anti-Seize compound which is grey?
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Saturday, May 15, 2010 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

copper grease is most likely what we'd call high temp anti seize which has a copper component to it thus the copper color vs the grey color most are accustomed to.
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Ron_luning
Posted on Saturday, May 15, 2010 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's the same product, but it uses copper instead of aluminum/copper mix in a grease base. The main difference is that the copper type has a higher temperature range. There are other kinds made of different metals for even higher temp applications.

The gray stuff will work just fine for this application.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Saturday, May 15, 2010 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great tip and follow up details.

THX
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Wbrisett
Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 06:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When looking for this stuff in auto parts stores, just make sure you are getting the right stuff. As pointed out in this thread there are several types of anti-seize, make sure get the copper/high-temp stuff. You'll probably have to read the package a few times. I noticed last week when I bought some that they had both side by side and the packages looked nearly identical.

Wayne
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Sportster_mann
Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have tried both the tap and the strap methods but with no luck.

Tap is as described - tried tapping it with a dead (soft) hammer to try to break it free.

Strap is where you run a tensioned heavy strap between both forks of the swingarm to stop it opening up as you undo the axle - I then tried the tap method again but it wouldn't free up.

For the time being I have left it covered in penetrating oil - hopefully with enough liberal applications some will get through and help free it up.

If all else fails then my local dealer will collect the bike and sort it out under warranty, not sure how I will sort the tyre (tire) out though, can't afford dealer prices to replace it - will have to try and plug it to get the bike home and then sort the tyre out afterwards.
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting that this is an issue, the 2010's have a different axle thats anodized to prevent this from happening.
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