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Myotherbike
| | Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2010 - 10:26 pm: | 
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Okay, looking at the Barker it looks sweet. How loud is it compared to the FMF pipe? Do all the after market slip-on type pipes have to "re-packed" once in awhile? Specifically, does the barkers have packing in it?
Over the weekend I heard an HMF and an FMF pipe. But both were at idle and I wasn't able to hear the thing when it was moving through the gears.
I can't seem to find any info on the HMF pipe, does it have a quiet core available too? Seems like most of the other pipes do. |
D_adams
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 01:54 am: |
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Easyrider
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 03:22 am: |
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I have the Barker mounted on a 1125CR ready fr the Dyno, I hope I make it this weak to let you all know the results on mY dyno and the compare to oter exhaust. |
Jules
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 06:49 am: |
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Excellent..definately looking forward to seeing that! |
Puzzled
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 07:05 am: |
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Zackxb12s as brumbear asked what size core do you have installed? The 1" will loose some mid power while trying to retain the low DB level. I have found the 1 1/2 to be the best "all around" insert. |
Puzzled
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 07:06 am: |
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Easyrider I look forward to map you come up with.  |
Puzzled
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 07:22 am: |
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Myotherbike, the Barkers is adjustable in regards to sound by using what they cal "Quiet cores". They are currently available in three sizes 1" 1 1/2" and 1 5/8". Once you see one you'll understand how they work. |
Petethekiller
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 08:48 am: |
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Dean, that is hot! |
Freezerburn840
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 10:27 am: |
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Do all the after market slip-on type pipes have to "re-packed" once in awhile?
I know for sure Remus has no repacking. I think the Barker's and Keda Designs have no repacking. I have looked at both websites I dont see anywhere that repacking is required. Hr1 riot exhaust has no repacking. I think for me having a pipe with no repacking required is what I would want. Just the hastle of doing it is what I would hate. |
Mountainstorm
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 10:35 am: |
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Well anything that is packed theoretically needs repacking after a while because the material breaks down and exits the muffler through the perforated or louvered core. But I gave up on repacking my Buell Pro muffler on the X1 and had a guy weld it up with no rivets (rivets always always sheared off over time) and threw the perforated core away since it was a major source of destructive vibration.
I think it works pretty good with nothing in the muffler at all  Maybe lacks a little torque on low end. |
Easyrider
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 11:14 am: |
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The torque hammer is not using repackaging material (-: |
Myotherbike
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 01:38 pm: |
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Freezerburn840, I agree that repacking would turn me away from a pipe. I really don't want to go through the hassle of doing it. It's disappointing, I kind of liked the look of the FMF pipe I saw.
I did a little digging and found that the HMF pipe also has the glass wool packing. Should have known, the HMF and FMF pipes are pretty similar in design.
So it looks like I am down to the Barkers. I really like the Remus, but it looks to be pretty pricey from the sites I found it on.
With that said, I will probably hold off until the Exhaust shootout is over so I can see the rankings. |
Thefleshrocket
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 02:18 pm: |
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The Barker will also need to be repacked at some point. A little of the packing has already worked its way out of mine--a few strips of the cloth-like packing material. I've only got maybe 500 miles on mine, so this may just be some loose material from the initial construction, though. |
Zip88
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 02:58 pm: |
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Any one that has the Barker with the 1" cone check the screen for strands of fiber glass. I am using the 1 1\2 now. It is not too loud IMO. |
Craiga
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 03:03 pm: |
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Going from a D&D to a Barker, I have yet to put my QC back in since trying it without it...It's a great mellow tone which screams when you want it to. Can't wait to get my EBR EMC back with a lower idle set...
(Message edited by craiga on April 19, 2010) |
Zackxb12s
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 08:46 pm: |
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Hey puzzeled i have the core that comes with the pipe i think it is a 1 1/2''. i want to see what easyrider comes up with on the Dyno. |
Myotherbike
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 09:12 pm: |
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Just watched some videos on repacking the FMF pipe. It actually isn't that bad. Then I looked at the price of the repacking material. FMF wants $59.99 for a repackaging kit. Seems high. Also, there isn't a good guide as to how often it needs to be done, their FAQ says 'Let your ears be the guide.' |
Ridenusa4l
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 09:23 pm: |
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they fmf repack video is for their exhaust with screws..the 1125 exhaust has rivets.
Jake |
Puzzled
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 10:20 pm: |
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Hey puzzeled i have the core that comes with the pipe i think it is a 1 1/2''. i want to see what easyrider comes up with on the Dyno.
The pipe would come with a 1" core if no other size was specified at the time of the order.
(Message edited by Puzzled on April 19, 2010) |
Puzzled
| | Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 - 10:23 pm: |
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The Barker will also need to be repacked at some point. A little of the packing has already worked its way out of mine--a few strips of the cloth-like packing material. I've only got maybe 500 miles on mine, so this may just be some loose material from the initial construction, though.
Tim has stated in another thread that there will be some inital packing that blows out within the first couple hundred miles. This is residual from the manufacturing process. As for the repacking itself I believe he stated it will be several years before one will need to be redone.} |
Dman
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2010 - 12:22 pm: |
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Wow, that RT3 is shhhweet. I know it's loud, but the more pics Dean posts, the more I think that hearing is overrated.
(Message edited by DMan on April 20, 2010) |
Thefleshrocket
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2010 - 01:48 pm: |
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Thanks for the clarification, Puzzled. Glad to hear that the small amount of packing I've seen blow out from my Barker is normal and isn't something that will continue. (I haven't noticed any more packing since removing the hangers-on a couple hundred miles ago.) |
Zackxb12s
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2010 - 09:38 pm: |
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hey puzzled i did not order the pipe. Tim Barker lives in lapeer mi just north east of me and my dealer stocks his pipes, thats where i bought my pipe from, the dealer. how can i check to see what core size is. if the core is the 1" silincer. i know that the 1'' silincer is not in the pipe. |
Myotherbike
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2010 - 10:46 pm: |
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Thanks Jake, didn't realize that the Apex had rivets. That changes the ease of repacking. |
Freezerburn840
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 12:58 am: |
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Well I am glad I didnt buy FMF. I knew that repacking would be high and now recently pipes have been cracking. Jardine seems to be more reliable but repacking will have to be done as well.
For me it will come down to these in no particular order:
Barker's
Keda
Free Spirits
Remus
Torque Hammer
Drummer
HPE
Termignoni
Saron |
Puzzled
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 09:01 am: |
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Zackxb12s, remove the three bolts from the exhaust tip. That is where the insert sits. Since you purchased an off the shelf exhaust I'm going to say you have the 1" core. If so ditch it and pick up a 1 1/2" core.
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Zackxb12s
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 08:33 pm: |
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it looks like mine does not have a core |
Puzzled
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 - 08:52 pm: |
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No it does not. |
