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Avc8130
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone have any pics of the charging system harness installed? How about the dealer instructions?

I am mostly just curious what the dealer will be doing to my bike.
ac
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Captain_america
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some pics of the installed harness (yellow wires)







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Tbowdre
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 02:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

had mine "upgraded" today. It took about 2 hours for a tech that, I think, has only done one other.

In addition to captain america's pics there is another connector similar to these two under the tail section, he moved a/couple pin outs on the ECM connector and also added a wire to the ECM connector. maybe more? This was more work and a lot of extra wires and connectors I did not expect!

Hopefully this will save our stators

todd
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Captain_america
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 02:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine has been doing great. I have 1400 miles on it so far
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Ohsoslow
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 02:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had mine scheduled to go intoday to get done, it is first week here in Michigan that will be real nice, they told me they might need it for a day or two, I rescheduled.
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Avc8130
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh man, that sounds complicated for a Harley tech. It is funny, HD doesn't trust ME to do the work...and I don't trust THEM!
ac
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Tbenson
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does the pulsing of the lights go away (dash, tail light, etc.)?

Mine pulses quite a bit right now, at idle it is very noticeable.
It has done this from new, not something that has just occurred.
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Avc8130
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine does that also. I can see the LCD pulse at idle.
ac
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Captain_america
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes! the pulsing of the headlights and cluster is gone.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The instructions are very simple. Lots of steps...but simple steps.

They unplug a connector.

They add a small overlay harness.

They add a couple of connectors.

They add a relay.

They add a wire to an existing connector on the ECM, to control everything.

They reflash the ECM.
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Avc8130
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How much of the bike has to come apart? Sounds like airbox cover and left pod?
ac
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Captain_america
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+ tail
+ motor (if you need a new stator as I did)

Other than that I Have no clue. HD won't let me do the warranty work on my bike either
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Freezerburn840
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So far procedure works well for my bike. Charging volts range anywhere from as low as 12.7 to 14.1 volts but generally stays between 13.6 to 14.1.

I commute a lot with my bike as well as doing weekend riding. On the 91 fwy here in So Cal I am in heavy traffic. I notice the volts will drop quite a bit in stop and go traffic (below 13 volts at times) while I am lane splitting. I have found out with my bike I have to keep the revs at 5,000 or above then they wont drop below 13. So although I would like to be in second gear while I am in that mess the bike hates it. Maybe one day I will get the fast track pass.

I also feel its safe to assume that is probably why my stator failed. Anyhow I owned two Xb's before this never had any trouble and those were air cooled. At least our 1125's are liquid.
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Captain_america
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am in the same boat as Freezerburn. I commute everyday from my house in Riverside to Hawthorne, CA (65 miles) on the 91. I have fasttrack though.

Dude you need fasttrack! Going West on a bike is ALWAYS free and going east on a bike is ALWAYS free except between 4-6pm during the week its half off!

Why have I not seen you?
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Freezerburn840
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I get off at 4:00pm going north bound on 710 then I hit the 91 around 4:10pm then when I do hit the crud its about 4:30 to 4:45pm. I do have the paperwork for the fast track just have not sent it in yet. I will be hitting the fast track where I have to pay everytime.

The thing is I have used it with a previous bike. No matter what I couldnt get home before 5:20pm and I get home without fast track no later than 6:00pm sometimes sooner like 5:45pm. So I have to weigh how much is that time worth. I will probably do it eventually.

Also some days like today I use my Ranger because of the threat of rain or else I would have it with me today. I think I have seen you as a matter of fact I saw a Buell 1125cr yesterday going home in the fast track. I was around Gyspum canyon.

(Message edited by freezerburn840 on March 31, 2010)
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Tibman260
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Captain, Your dealer installed the harness wrong. When you have the cali canister, the relay is supposed to be on the outside of the frame. It also looks like the relay is way farther back than it should be.
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Freezerburn840
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got you beat 150 mile round trip from Murrieta to Long Beach. We must be freaking nuts to be living so far from work huh!! Oh well got to do what we got to do right!

(Message edited by freezerburn840 on March 31, 2010)
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Freezerburn840
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Tibman when I get time I will compare my setup to Captain's pics as well to see if mine has a difference.
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Avc8130
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Take some pics so we can compare too :-)
ac
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Tibman260
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The harness should be making a T where the two stator connections and relay leads come together. Captains looks like a Y and looks like it is being pulled to the back of the tailsection in the direction of the relay. I would love to know if the relay was placed too far back or the lead length to the relay is too short.
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Captain_america
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where is the relay? I didn't see one...

Tibman260 Do you have a pic of the correct routing. The routing of mine looks OK to me there are no wires being pulled.

whew! 150 everyday? Ya,,,,, were crazy... Common I ride in the rain! lol.

Lets meetup one day and ride home together. I get off @ 3:30 but usually leave between then and 4:30. We could meet at the 91 and 710 no problem.
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Tbowdre
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FWIW mine looks just like captains
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Freezerburn840
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually Captain I lie a little bit. Monday and wednesday I stay out here with a friend. Certainly minimizes the headache but when he gets married that will be that. This friday I will give you a buzz. Meetup at Atlantic and the 91 mobil station right there.

Sorry I will ride in the rain if I get caught in the rain. lol. Which had happened when we got that El nino effect the last month or two.

(Message edited by freezerburn840 on March 31, 2010)
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Captain_america
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like a plan.
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Tibman260
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hopefully this should help.
Stator subharness mounting 1
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Tibman260
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

part 2
part 2
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Tibman260
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

last part
last pic
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Freezerburn840
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow interesting.
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Captain_america
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Crazy shit. My relay is outside the frame but it is just routed a little different than yours and is not as pretty.
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Avc8130
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So does the tail section only have to come off for Cali can equipped bikes?
ac
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