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Batbeyond99
Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 02:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i finally spent the money and got the after market fairings for my '08 1125r. i know that a lot of you have written in with issues and i have read only a few. well i am going to install mine this weekend and i am asking for knowledge. if any one knows of issues that i need to be cautious of, please let me know. if there is something that is not in the parts that i need to go pick up, please let me know. if i need to add more heat shield protection, please let me know.

i do a lot of my own work but i like to know what i am getting into and that is why i am ask all of you.
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Rockstarblast1
Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 03:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the front bracket on the right side needs bent out. or you can get a 1/4 to 1/2 inch spacer and longer screw. dont bother putting the head shield on. get some other stuff from off the interweb! i bought 2 packages and only needed one... i might sell it if your interested.
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Jules
Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 06:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1

The std heat shield is rubbish, swap it out for something better (not puffy).

The front bracket can be bent out, but I also added a 1/2 inch spacer between the bracket and the fairing. That and the non-puffy heat shield should give you the airgap you need to stop it from melting..
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Mountainstorm
Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 07:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You will find the stock heat shield won't last so save yourself a PITA and replace it with something better before you install. The right front bracket can either be bent or you can make a spacer or use washers to get the bracket spaced from the case about 1/4" or so. When fitting the right side fairing be sure to look down and do whatever you need to do to get a 1/4" gap between the header pipe and the heatshield.

Again: replace the stock heatshield with better material.

Like this: http://www.verociousmotorsports.com/Shop-by-Brand/ Heatshield-Mats-and-Blankets/Heatshield-Radiant-He at-Mat
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Geforce
Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



I did this video when these first came out to help explain how they attach and what not. So if ya want, take a look, I go over the brackets on the left and right side quite a bit and you can see how much clearance you need. Shortly after this video I took the time to adjust them again and gain even a little more clearance and have yet to have any problems with the fairings.

Good luck!
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Batbeyond99
Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you guys have been outstanding help. thank you so much. hey geforce, i did see your video when you first made it but i guess i forgot about it. after watching it i realize how dirty my bike is. i now know that i need to head out and do some shopping. thanks again guys
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Batbeyond99
Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 04:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

has anyone found out if exhaust wraps help any with the heat issue?

i tried and tried today and could not find a place that carries heat shield mats. i guess i will have to put off the fairings until next weekend.
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Jules
Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 05:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought mine off eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/THERMAL-SELF-ADHESIVE-HEAT-S HIELD-BARRIER-500mm-X-500mm_W0QQitemZ300403678497Q QcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_S M?hash=item45f1745d21

Find a US seller with a similar product and you'll be fine
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Geforce
Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 08:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you install the fairing correctly and spend some time on those right side brackets getting plenty of clearance you won't need the additional heat tape. I have a few hundred miles on the setup in the video now and the heat tape looks great. If in the future it ever starts to fall apart I will remove that side and replace it with a better solution.
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Trafford
Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I second that. The fairing needs clearance then it will be just fine.
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Batbeyond99
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 06:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i got every thing done i believe. i did use the heat shield that came with it but i also used some tape that i have. its a good heat tape and i didn't want to use just that so i combined what i have and what they gave me. i pulled the bracket out and used a spacer. the weather should be nice for a test ride today. thanks again for all the help.
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Rockstarblast1
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You asked us what to do then didn't listen..... the stock heat shield SUCKS, I wouldn't risk it. But let us know what happens! If it starts to melt and doesn't work shoot me a pm, like I said I have stuff rated to 2000 degrees that works great for sale and its enough to do almost the whole fairing (that isn't needed but just saying)
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Velocity
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For what its worth Summit racing has different size heat mat that you can cut to fit,the stuff is rated I believe to 1200 degrees. 12"x12" was 9.99 or there about.
It kept mine from melting.


Scott
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Jules
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I still think taking the original shield off would have been a better approach, after less than 200 miles mine was lifting at the edges and was so easy to peel off I have no confidence in them..it wasn't tacky enough..

Assuming you taped over the top of it to stop it "puffing up" you'll probably be OK though.
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Rockstarblast1
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mines from summit racing, the one your talkin about is a constant 400 degrees or so, I didn't think it was enough.
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Sportster_mann
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Before fitting the heat shield to the panel I marked out the area and roughed it up with some wet and dry to give a better key for the glue.

I'll let you know if it adhere's better once I get round to fitting the panels.

I'm still waiting for the bodywork to be released on EBR before I make a final decision on what to fit - I really want the 1190RR body kit - but I suspect that it's going to be out of my price range.
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Batbeyond99
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i had originally wanted to do all the mods that i had planned this weekend and this was news to me that i did not have everything that i needed. for example i did not know until i made this post on Friday that the heat shield was not worth installing. this weekend i denoided the bike then i worked on making a better bracket for the license plate and installed new lights for it. that was not fun with the fuses popping because i did not have a load equalizer. i picked one up on saturday and finished that project. now i have to go shopping again due to the equalizer is way to hot to have in the tail of the bike near the battery. as for the fairings, i did listen but i just made a modification to what you all said. i placed the heat shield in the proper location but i added three layers of the heat tape i own across it. i think i did four layers at the leading edge. i added the spacer and even bent the bracket out a bit. i rode to work today and every time i stopped i took off my gloves and felt for heat. all i can say is so far, so good. i mean it when i say thank you for all your help.
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Jules
Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 07:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is the load equalizer a ballast resistor? And is that for your flashers or the actual tail light?

I briefly changed the stock flashers for smaller LED ones but the flash rate was too high (wrong load), I toyed with the idea of fitting the ballast resistors in parallel but decided just to black out the stock flashers and live with it..
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Batbeyond99
Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i took off the oem light and replaced everything back there. i am using the led lights that are inside of bolts that hold the plate on. when i used them on my honda i had no problems but as soon as i put them on this bike they blew the fuse every time. a guy told me about this load equalizer and everything works but the heat is not safe. i will most likely have to find a different light to use to light up the plate.
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Jules
Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's interesting.. I wouldn't have thought they'd have been an issue, the LED bulbs would want to draw less current so not sure why that'd cause a blown fuse. I'd have suggested you might have a short but if the load equalizer stops the fuse blowing that shouldn't be the case..

Any chance of posting a pic so we can see what you're working on?
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Batbeyond99
Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 05:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i thought a short also until i connected the oem light back up. no blown fuse then. i still dont like the fact this equalizer is putting off so much heat so i think i might have to use a different set up to light the plate. i work second shift so i need the light to stay legal. if i get pulled over for speeding i dont want the lights to be tacked on to the ticket. maybe i should start a new thread just about this issue?
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Jules
Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A new thread would be good - as we're into a new topic now : )
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Sportster_mann
Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got LED bolts to light my number plate also - never had any issues.
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