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Kevinjgray88
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the 1125r is new to me i took it around the block today and it seemed a little luggy in first gear is that typical for this bike. and its only 50 degrees out and i went about 100 yards and the fans kicked on
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Kevinjgray88
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it would also want to stall when coming up to stop signs unless i pulled the clutch in a little
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Craiga
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They don't like to go less than 18mph.
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Kevinjgray88
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so its normal to be luggy when coasting around in first gear
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Vinb
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I second that it was made to go fast and that's what it likes. And the fans run just about the hole time on mine
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Xnoahx
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When coming to a stop it is normal to have to pull in the clutch or shift into neutral if you want to stop without the clutch
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Brumbear
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The motor will loosen up on ya after a couple thousand miles and everything will be peachy!
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1_mike
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First, these engines aren't built like they were back in the 60's.
They're pretty much ready to "run" after the first 500 or so break in miles. Even the so called break in. All that's being "worn in" is a coupla shims and the piston rings. Everything else is ready to run.

The way these engines are fueled (timing and fuel maps) is not good from the factory.
The EPA (and?) has seen to that.

With proper remapping, they CAN be driven around at 20/25 MPH.
At least mine is. Fans, yea, they finally come on. But again...see above. With proper fuel and timing maps, they run fairly normal temperatures as any other bike.
I can even easily pull away from a stop in second gear....no stalling when pulling the clutch in from a high speed. Though it did a coupla times...BEFORE I gave the engine what it needs to run correctly...from within the ECM.

Mike
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My bikes will run down to 15mph fine without tuning, and never has stalled on me coming to a stop.
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Kevinjgray88
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so once its broke in she is going to be ok and smooth out.
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Everything will get better once its broken in, my 1125R is now getting over 40mpg.

Also, make sure your bike has the latest ECM flash.
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Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm wondering if with some software it would be possible to change the temps the fans run at.
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes that can be changed in the ECM, but I don't see why you would do that, the fans come on for a reason.
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Metalrabbit
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I still have the flash that it had from its build date of 12/08. I get 29mpg and I ain't changing anything cause it hauls ass just the way it is. If I get the latest flash and start getting 40mpg something will end up being gone from its performance. And that would definitely not make me happy.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1_mike

what type of ecm mapping are you using?
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Kevinjgray88
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

my bike was made in september 2009 if you can tell anything from that. how would i find out if i had the latest flash
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Kevinjgray88
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 01:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so just bare the luggy part till its broke in. its only got 5 miles now
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Jasbiz66
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 08:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dealer will tell you what flash you have. Just looked at your profile, you live in WI, you could probably just ride to Erik's shop and shoot the shit with him and ask him those questions......
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Xtreme6669
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pretty sure 1mike is running the O S B with a tune he has modded himself a bit...

I run the same tune with the pre made performance calibration and my low end jerk is also much better... I can now lug it down to 2500 or so rpm smoothly... before anything under 4k was herky-jerky
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Budgolf
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just some food for thought, I have an 08 with a feb build date. No flashes at all. Mine was the same way for about the first 3 weeks. I live on a military post so in my commute I'm at 15 mph or less quite a bit. But the bucking and surging just went away. Like it just learned something and worked it out. I'm planning on getting the flashes, but really, It's freaking perfect as it is. Maybe yours will do the same.

By the way, the scorching heat issues were the same way. It was just like a new bike showed up in my garage one day.

(Message edited by budgolf on March 14, 2010)
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Kevinjgray88
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what is the normal or optimal rpm range while riding around. you want to keep it around 3-4?
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The engine likes to be revved, its built for it. Normal cruising I tend to stay in between 3 an 4k, sometimes 5k if I am in the mood. I will spin it up once in a while on back roads when nobody is around. It is happy as a clam just cruising at say 7 or 8k, but at that point you are just wasting gas in my opinion.
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Kevinjgray88
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

awesome thanks froggy
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

TPS Reset.
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Kevinjgray88
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what is a tps reset blake
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Brumbear
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

read the op manual it gives you directions to do a tps reset
couldn't hurt but the more you use it the better it gets
go have fun
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Kevinjgray88
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the AT on my bike was reading 81 is that a normal range when its about 60 degrees out and i was riding in town so slow speeds
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wish Buell would rename AT to IAT, because its not the ambient temperate. The IAT is the temperature of the air going into the air intake. If it says its 80°F, then it is probably correct.
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Kevinjgray88
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok so that sounds normal
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Cravacor
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have no idea what 4th, 5th & 6th gears are for on this bike
I will be hauling around in 3rd whenever I am back road flogging, even up into the 55-60 mph range
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Blake
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

TPS Reset/Rezero for 2008 & later Buell XBike and 1125R/CR:

To do a TPS reset on 2008, 2009, and 2010 Buell twins:

1. Switch the Run/Stop switch to the Run position.

2. Turn ignition key on.

3. With the engine off, rotate the throttle grip from the closed throttle position to the wide open throttle position and back to closed position 3 times holding the throttle grip against each stop for one full second.

4. Cycle the key off and back on.
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Xodot
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...I have no idea what 4th, 5th & 6th gears are for on this bike ... LMAO - I thought it was just me!
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Johnnys999
Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 02:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think once the inventor of the FatDuc makes one for the Buell, the slow speed problem will go away. FatDuc meaning 02 manipulator. Its an ideal solution to the low RPM jerkiness.
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Dirty_john
Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 03:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Annoying mistake on the 1125R was not being able to select which parameters can be displayed on the IC at the same time, however the bike is so good I can forgive the minor irritation
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