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Mooch
Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So I have reviewed all the threads that came up associated with header wrap, but was hoping to get some more up to date opinions.

I installed black header wrap the the headers of my 1125R. I did not go up as far as I should have because I did not remove the headers, just wrapped them on the bike. The rear header starts at just above the heat shield and gos as far as the collector. The front header I started below the oxygen sensor and went to the collector as well.

I applied them wet,and wrapped them tight. I allowed them to dry all night, rode it the next day, and two days later applied the spray color and sealer.

Since having them on I have noticed cooler running temps, and my D&D rarely ever pops on decel anymore. Plus I like how they look.

What I am worried about is all of the people that tell me the wrap will eat my headers. Because I know stock headers are going to be harder and harder to come by I am worried about it. I am curious what others think about this? Have any of you used header wrap and had problems?

Thanks for the advice.
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Redbat
Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mooch, I would think stainless steel should last with the wrap, but maybe I'm wrong. I admit I've never tried it yet, but from what I've read, I think it should be ok. I think it looks cool though.
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Afhans
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2010 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mooch,

I agree w/Redbat. In fact I just orderer my header wrap last night.

So being that the rear header would be such a headache to remove I have decided to wrap it while on the bike. Do you think it benefit me to remove the front header though?

Also I have a 50 foot roll on it's way. About how many feet per header did you use? I don't want to soak the whole damned thing. And worse, I do not want to not soak enough.
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Mooch
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2010 - 01:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Afhans-
I hear it is a real pain to remove the headers. you can get to the front one pretty easy. I would remove the pod to get at it better, but i didn't. It was a PIA working around though.

I used 12'. Could of def benefited from a 24' roll though. If I was to get a 50' roll I would cut it in half. Should be more than enough.

Here are some pix of mine.










(Message edited by mooch on March 11, 2010)
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Dman
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2010 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mooch, your bike looks great! Thanks for the post, I was just thinking about this, I was reading posts on the melting fairing issue, I have the fairing, & thinking this could be a good idea.

What/where did you actually buy?
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Jeepinbueller
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2010 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How's that D&D "wake the dead" pipe treatin' 'ya Mooch? Gotta' admit, the neighbors would probably burn my house down, but I love the sound it puts out. Bike looks great, too, BTW.
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1_mike
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2010 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got a Yamaha R1 that I wrapped the headers about three days after driving it home from the dealer. It's now got almost 99,000 miles on it.
Not a leak, soft spot or any other problem anywhere.

Yes, the wrap will cause deterioration of carbon steel tubing...not stainless.

The front section (1125) will come off very easily. The rear...I redid during the valve adjust I did over the holidays.
I put two layers on the whole thing. I started out to just add the second layer near the water pump and radiator...ended up doing both ends, the full length.

I used the 1" wide tape on the small tubes and the 2" on the big tubes.

Mike
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Chiefiron
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2010 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not sure how they did it but here is my wrapped header and Jardine.



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Mooch
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2010 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks everyone.

Dman-
I used DEI header wrap and header wrap paint. I bought them at Knechets Auto Parts.

Jeepinbueller-
I love that pipe. I live in an apartment complex so i feel bad warming it up, but so far no one has said anything. Seriously though, after getting this pipe I fell in love with this bike even more.
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Pittsburgh_guy
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2010 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wrapped my pipes earlier this winter, but I took the heatshield off, cut the bracket off, and grinded down what was left. It allowed me to get much further back on the rear headers, I missed maybe 1-2 inches. I like most, used black header wrap from summit and did it while they headers were still on the bike.

Took the bike out for a couple rides since and it made a great difference in the heat no burning my leg as well as not melting my side fairings.
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Dman
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2010 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm sold, now on my must do mod list. Thnx!
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Aj2010
Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just did the rear header so far, while the bike is disassembled for the heat shielding on the frame. I thought I would be able to do a half decent job without removing the rear header from the bike .... NO-WAY!!! I did find out that the rear header can be removed with the engine still in the frame (mostly). You do have to remove the upper shock bolt, drop the the rear end a bit. Remove the rear motor mounting bolts and loosen the front mounting bolts so the motor will pivot or rather the frame will pivot upwards just enough to remove the header. I wrapped the header with a rag to avoid scratching any of my shiny new paint off After seeing just how much work this is turning out to be, I think I will buy this spray coating that has been mentioned earlier in the thread. ('cause I just don't want to ever have to do this again if the wrap should come loose)
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