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Xnoahx
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a set of traction grips I am going to put on and I figured I would put some heating elements in there as well while Im at it. I was thinking of the kit from Symtec http://www.symtec-inc.com/Motorcycle-Grip-Warmer-K its_c_36.html Anyone put these on their 1125? I would love to do the OEM kit but it is just more money than I want to spend. Any other alternatives for ~$45 that the symtecs are?
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Cmmfiremedic
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the same ones on my 1125. I dont thing you can use them with the traction grips due to way the throttle side is made.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The throttle grip on the traction grips is glued to the tube, and would make it difficult to install. American Sport Bike sells grips similar to the traction grips that will work.
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Buelet
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got a set of Traction Grips that I'm getting ready to add the old style American Sportbike elements to. My throttle side came off fairly easily. FAR easier than the clutch side that these are replacing. YMMV.

The other issue is using the Traction grips with anything that has the wind-deflectors is that they're closed on the ends. I just used an x-acto knife to carefully cut the "plug" out of the end.
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Xnoahx
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like the ones American Sport Bike sells are the same or very similar to the symtec ones. Any tips on the install? What did you wire them to for the power?
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Chadhargis
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The accessory plug in the front of the bike. I even used a Ulysses right control pod with the built in switch.

American Sportbike sells a "kit" that has everything you need.
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Xnoahx
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I never thought of using the Uly switch pod. Might be a good idea
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1324
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've used the ones from American Sport Bike and they worked well. I'll be trying a set of Symtec heaters on the 1125 very shortly.

Despite what American Sport Bike and many others say about the Traction grips, you CAN use grip heaters with them. The grip is glued to the throttle tube, but you can remove it fairly easily. I've done three sets so far...
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Mavrick813
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What about Heat Demonz do they sell anything that can go inside the tube and still use the Traction Grips??
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Ccryder
Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

American Sport Bike has the RH control group with the grip switch too. It's all plug and play with that. No worry about power or connectors.
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Dirty_john
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 02:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I use heated gloves from EXO over here in the UK, I always found that my finger tips were not in contact with the bars to give enough heat to move through the gloves.

With heated gloves I can simply move them from bike to bike, they are wired into the battery via the acc plug.
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Xnoahx
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 03:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought about heated gloves but having that cord seems inconvenient.
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Ccryder
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 08:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It depends on your set up if the cord is an issue. With my Gerbing jacket, it has cords on each sleeve and it's a non-issue.

Out in your neck of the woods heated grips would probably be enough. Below 50F and down in the 30s, for any distance, heated gloves are the only way to go.
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Norrie
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get the proper Buell ones.
I have just fitted the proper Buell ones and they are really easy to install as they just plug into the accessory plug behind the flyscreen and you replace the stock switch so everything looks factory.
I don't think there expensive for what you are getting.
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Rah7777777
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ive installed a few sets of traction grips with grip heaters underneath.

get a squirt bottle with soap and water and use it to lube the throttle grip while you roll it back over itself....

a pain, yes....worth it, hell yes!!!

-Robert
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Jdugger
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have both grips and gloves. I get a lot more use out of the grips.

The balance to the "I can move my gloves to any bike" argument is the "most of the time I don't need heated gloves" statement.

Many, many, many trips have been just a touch cold in the morning or evening, but would otherwise be fine all day. Grips are perfect for this situation. Also, late in the day, even in the summer, the grips on low are nice, soothing heat.

The other big upside of grips in the dead of winter is keeping those ice cold motorcycle parts away! It sure is nice.

The big drawback of grips is that you have to grab the bars much more tightly than ideal to get heat transfer.

Honestly, I have both. Running grips + gloves on low is better than either of them on high, for sure. I get a lot more use out of my grips because they are just so much practical than dealing with gloves on those days where you don't need heat all day.

But, I'd not give up either.
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1324
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But, I'd not give up either.

I'd LOVE to give up both...forever! Imagine moving to a place warm and sunny all the time. Unlike where I live. I'm looking at ANOTHER 5" of snow today. Bleh.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I put heated grips on my CR when I bought it in the fall. I loved them. Then it actually got cold. Below 45 degrees and they're useless. I don't think I'll put them on any other bike I have in the future - heated gloves are on my xmas list.}
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Cafefun
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To me heated grips are a waste of money if you have ever used gerbings heated gloves. and then there good on more then one bike and last pretty much forever. I tried heated grips first and they do nothing for your finger tips if below 40 degrees.
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Buelet
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on what Jdugger said, but definitely YMMV.

There are as many takes on gloves vs grips as there are on which seat is the best. Do your research & then pay your nickel & take your chances!

I find that I'm personally good in the mid-30's + with just my regular Buell gauntlet riding gloves. 45'+ and it's no problem for me with the light weight riding gloves & heaters on low. Definitely to each their own. Wind deflectors play a small role in this too.

And FWIW - I find the wind protection / warmth excellent on the 1125R even though it doesn't have deflectors (or heated grips at the moment). The wind-tunnel time was well spent!
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Avc8130
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I LOVE my heated grips. They are absolutely perfect for Spring/Fall. In the Northeast we have 60 degree days that drop to 40s when the sun goes down often in the spring and fall. This is where the grips shine.

I used Symtec heated liners. They stick on the bar/throttle tube. They are balanced side to side as the clutch side requires more heat because the bar sinks it away. I bought a Cherry switch and grafted it into the right control. I used the accessory power plug to provide juice. 1324 was nice enough to separate some Traction Grips for me with his magically rubber treatment stuff.

Overall well worth the effort and expense ~$60 INCLUDING the Traction Grips.
ac
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cafefun: If your fingertips are too cold even with heated grips, you're likely squeezing the grips too tight.

I discovered this many years ago. The instinct is to squeeze the grips tightly for the warmth. The problem is, you're cutting off your circulation so the blood can't carry the heat to your fingertips. Your hands will be a LOT warmer if you relax your grip.

I agree that heated gloves will keep your hands warmer... but they don't do you any good if you've left them home and the temperature should drop unexpectedly. Since the grips are ALWAYS on the bike, relief is just a click away.

I've also discovered that cold hands can often be fixed with a GOOD electric VEST. Hands (and feet) get cold when the body starts restricting blood flow to your extremities in order to keep your body core (chest and head) warm. If you can pump heat into your body, then the blood will continue to flow to your extremities (bringing the warmth with them).

I find I only need the electric grips in below freezing temperatures.
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Xodot
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what is the maximum amperage you can draw on the 1125?

I see if I bought the whole Gerbing kit, I'd draw 13.4 amps maximum.
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Cafefun
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nope not gripping to tight for me.
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Superdavetfft
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just put on a set of oxford grips;

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/5 220/481/

And although I haven't ridden a great distance with them just yet (something about the -20 wind chill and snow all over...) I can say they get WARM and fairly quickly too. They have multiple settings and a very nice design. All the components seem to be made of very durable materials, the connectors are solid and the controls are nicely put together. VERY easy install too.

For less than half the cost of the Buell ones I'd recommend them...

superdave
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Therealassmikeg
Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like a nice setup S/D.

The OEM grips are also cake to install. except for the supplied drill bit...it sucks.

After fixing everyone elses problem cars day in/day out I sometimes find myself less than willing to mess around with even something simple like trying to fit aftermarket stuff. For 15% off at the dealer, I saved myself the trouble and supported local business.
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Dirty_john
Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 02:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

and I don't grip the bars too tight either, gloves are the answer for me - to each his own solution
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Xnoahx
Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 03:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those oxfords are a pretty sweet deal.
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Zacks
Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Therealassmikeg - I thought the drill bit sucked as well when using it in the cordless by hand. Chucked it into the drill press and it was just fine. YMMV.
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Nik
Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I use "Polly Heaters" made for snowmobiles. It's a cartridge heater that goes inside the handlebar itself, so there's no messing with removing and reinstalling grips. I had to drill holes in my bars on my lightning for the wires, but on an R bike the installation would be stupid easy.
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