| Author | Message | ||
     Pwillikers |
My garage is just off of the kitchen and hence, whatever happens in the garage is experienced, to some degree, in the kitchen. My wife just loves the new cr NOT! The gas fumes it regularly exudes permeate the living space she frequents. I don't like it much either although I do "understand" it. I need to do something. My cr boils fuel and drips it out of the overflow during and after every ride. It doesn't matter whether the tank is full or empty. It just drips. What to do? According to the manual, the California 1125 has an EVAP feature that includes a charcoal canister which collects the overflow. It is plumbed between the fuel tank vent and the throttle bodies. The accumulated overflow is sucked back in to the throttle bodies and never escapes into the atmosphere un-combusted. Its a fairly standard passive system, i.e. the vacuum circuit between the throttle bodies and the canister is open all the time (this last statement being conjecture on my part). By comparison, the EVAP setup on my BMW R1100S is active. It has an electrically controlled solenoid valve between the canister and the throttle bodies which it periodically opens. Anyway, on to the questions. For you California model 1125 owners: Can you detect any fuel fumes after parking? Do you have any fuel drippage? Does the canister do its job well? And for the experienced Buell mechanics: To add the EVAP function, is it a bolt on affair? What are the required part numbers? Thanks to all. (Message edited by pwillikers on November 29, 2009) | ||
| Doerman |
So the question is. If you added an evap cannister to your non-CA 1125, would the dripping stop,right? I have an 1125R with 25K miles and it does not drip.I can smell fuel vapors after parking in the garage after riding on hot summer days (100F or more). Hard to tell if the evap cannister solution would help you or not. If nothing else, it is an easy install. | ||
| Milleniumx1 |
I'll probably add that canister (my 09R is a 49-state bike) during the winter months. I was wondering too since I've seen CA owners say they can still smell the fumes, albeit without the drip. In the interim, I went with a $3 and 10 minute temporary solution. I plug this line in when I get home, drips outside the garage. Keeps the wife happy!  Mike | ||
| Mikezx9r |
I would like to add the California evap to my bike too. I find it somewhat embarrassing when my new bike "leaks" gas. It just gives more ammunition to the non-Buellers. I get a lot of "Why is your bike leaking gas? Oh yeah, cause its a Buell." That and it seems to be somewhat of a safety hazard for it to drip gas, no? | ||
| Naiguy |
I live in ca and the smell of gas is present in my garage after I ride | ||
| Cafefun |
Buell really needs to address this IMO. It is the only problem my Cr has and yes I consider it a problem. nothing else I have ever owned leaked gas in my garage after using it. | ||
| 1_mike |
No oders here, with my CR. Hot day, after a trip, full or low fuel level. Makes no difference. My garage is right off the front door to the house, I often leave the front door open, even on cooler days. Oh yea...no air conditioning, so I should be able to smell any gas. Now, ask me about my car.....! Mike | ||
| Tbowdre |
San Deigo 2009 1125R, no gas fumes at all. | ||
| Tbowdre |
San Deigo 2009 1125R, no gas fumes at all. | ||
| Prophet_136 |
09 1125R with 25K in riverside, ca., still get the odors of fuel and now just started getting the fuel pump activation after minutes of shut off. the dealer said it was to prevent the fumes. not working imo! (Message edited by prophet_136 on November 29, 2009) | ||
| Socalmoe |
Smelly but no drips (OC CA), I park three bikes in my garage and wrench sometimes so I keep a fan on 24/4 blowing away from my kitchen area. | ||
| 1_mike |
Prophet - Boy is that a line they try and force on us. Running the fuel pump after ignition shut off, is purely a waste of battery and fuel pump longevity. No fuel injected bike I've owned has done this...and guess what...never had a problem starting any of'em...even right after shutoff.! Mike | ||
| Kevin_stevens |
Very weird the variety of responses. I'm also in San Diego, 2009 CR, no odors whatever after 2K miles. KeS | ||
| Milt |
I live in Illinois, and I smell gas after I've ridden my 1125. Of course, I smelled gas after riding my P3.... | ||
| Mickeyq |
09 1125R and mine has dripped after my last ride 120mi. The shop told me they would take care of it. | ||
| Cafefun |
Not only do I smell gas but it drips out the hose for a damn hour after riding it. | ||
| Chessm |
09 1125cr - ca version - 1200 miles - no smell in hot and cold weather - varying amounts of fuel | ||
| Jackgraves |
I have a june 08 and it will drip for about 10 to 15 minutes after parking it. Man if someone chucks a smoke out after we park we are f..ked!!!!!!!!!!! (Message edited by jackgraves on November 29, 2009) | ||
| Red93stang |
I had the same problem. I installed the Cali can and problem solved! The only hard part is u have to remove the t-bodies to install the line on the front t-body, other than that it's an easy install. The lines are about 25 bucks for both and u can find the can on the Internet for pretty cheap. I found one on eBay for 50 cents+shipping. The Cali cans were used on a lot of models, Blast, 1125, and Sportsters. By the way it's not actually leaking fuel. The fuel vapor condenses and turns back to liquid once the vapor is out of the tank. | ||
| Eweaver |
My '09 1125R Ca model does not smell of gas. However, when did a motorcycle smelling like gas become a fault? My Sportsters stink to high heaven, so did my Hondas, Suzukis, Kawi..... | ||
| Redscuell |
"I was wondering too since I've seen CA owners say they can still smell the fumes, albeit without the drip. " I disagree. I have a 49 state 09 and the wife couldn't stand the smell, either, in the garage from the petrol. I installed the ca canister (including the oem hoses) and have NO smell. None. | ||
| Jdugger |
I have two '08 and one '09, 49-state, and they all stink. It's just a function of the motor heating up the frame. If you are in stop and go traffic at all, I see it as nearly impossible not to get the smell. The fuel gets hot from being in a hot tank. The "solution" to the problem, for those that insist it be fixed, is to NOT use fuel-in-frame. That's going to really change up a lot about the bike, but it would solve the problem. | ||
| Mikezx9r |
I dont care much about the smell. Its a safety hazard to leak fuel. It is also staining the swingarm and people dont appreciate if you park in their driveway and your vehicle leaks fuel and stains it. Personally, I dont want fuel staining my driveway either. | ||
| Ekunyvan |
08 1125R, purchased in Cali. No smell or drip whatsoever. My wife has a VERY sensitive nose, hates the smell of gas, oil, cigarettes, etc, & she parks her car & does laundry in the garage daily. Also I've been looking for the drip & have not see any at all. BTW, now I know why that can is connected to my fuel tank vent. I'd figured this was the case, but did not know it was specific to Cali & wondered if it just didn't work for others. I recommend installing the can. | ||
| Jdugger |
For what it's worth, I've not known gas to stain concrete -- at least mine. Not saying it doesn't happen, just saying I drip like an old faucet at the track and during the summer here in Texas, and I don't have driveway spots. In the summer, the tank gets so hot you don't really want to touch it, and if you fill up to the top of the tank and rest a few, it will actually BOIL off and you will loose as much as a half-pint of gas out the drip tube! (thermal expansion and all...) So, I'm not so sure it's really a safety problem. For sure, if you have a nice puddle there and you flick your cigarette at it there's an issue, but in a 2-car garage, even if smells to high heaven, there's not enough fumes to ignite. The practical advice has been to park the bike outside for a bit so it can cool before garaging it, and filling up with fuel *just* before home will help cool the tank and minimize the fume-off that causes the drip. But the bike *definitely* drips and fumes if you get her good and hot. The tank liners/reflectors on the inside of the frame and other mods help, but my 09 is nearly as bad as my '08. It's just kind of the nature of the bike. ... one of those quirks you learn to love about the Buell. | ||
| Froggy |
Both my 1125s, an 08 R and 09 CR, both 49 state bikes, only sometimes I get a fuel smell in the garage, and its faint. Never had gas puddles or anything drip onto my swingarm. | ||
| Ekunyvan |
@ Jduggar, Oddly enough this is the first fuel-in-frame bike to have this issue. If you think about the XB bikes the engine heat comes of the cylinders themselves, which is largely behind or at least parallel to the frame. It wasn't until Buell put radiators in front of the air that flows between the engine & the frame, hence all the engine heat is dumped to that air before it flows over the "tank" (frame). Whenever engineering advances are made there are usually unforeseen issues that arise. Given Erik Buell's history of working to make quality production products (XB models) I'm sure that Buell would have had this issue resolved in the next few production runs of the 1125. This is just one of many points of refinement that will forever plague my '08 1125R vice my never-to-exist 2020 1125R (or suitable Buell follow-on). Nevertheless, I will take the worst 1125R over any other sportbike you can get for less than $30K. At $6K & considering they won't be produced again I, like many, will learn to cope with the minor issues that arise in these innovative bikes Though with the Cali-Can mine does not have the fuel problem. & yes I probably would have ridden my XB12R until 2020 & beyond. | ||
| Mikezx9r |
I think the fuel gets on the swingarm from the bike moving and air blowing it back there. Most likely after the bike is parked for a few minutes and then ridden again. | ||
| Milleniumx1 |
Redscuell, I hope I have that same (no smell!) result. But I still see CA-spec owners, even on this thread, saying they have the fumes smell in certain conditions. I'll find out for myself after doing the canister install over the winter ... If I do. Mike (Message edited by milleniumx1 on November 29, 2009) | ||
| Fresnobuell |
As has been mentioned earlier, the smell WILL occur on the hottest of days. Guaranteed. I have had the R thru two complete summers. It's not overwhelming, but it is present. A non-issue as far as I am concerned. |
