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Ekunyvan
Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 01:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hate to say it Prophet but with numbers like that your post is less accurate than Gotlime's.

Doing some math for you, if you saw 184 on your speedo & assuming you are seeing km/hr, you get: 184km/hr = 114km/hr which puts you around 6600rpm in 6th gear.

If you're not seeing km/hr you either need to get your speedo calibrated (big time), or share your mods with all of us!

Also closing that throttle at 80mph, (130km/hr) not that big of deal, but yes the drag can slow you down rapidly at higher speeds especially if you're not tucked behind the screen.
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Pwillikers
Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 08:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

626 miles on the clock. I found a deserted, flat road with lots of visibility, made a pass and then spun around and stopped. From a standing start I rode the first four gears hard to red line... I swear I heard Gene Wilder screaming "ITS ALIVE!"

I've been riding for forty years (I started really young : ) ). I've owned some very fast bikes. In fact, I've gone over 140MPH many times. But, I've never been on anything that gets there as fast as this 1125 freight train does. It is astonishing.

Now, I realize most of you have owned your Buells for some time and this accelerated experience may be old hat to you. I encourage you to hearken back to that first time you held the throttle wide open. Just close your eyes and recollect... Do you hear Gene?




(Message edited by pwillikers on November 29, 2009)
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Prophet_136
Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok so to correct my previous post.... i did see 184 MPH! but the speed was pushing me off the bike that my reading of the rpm was scewed. it was actually around the high 9's or so. the only things i have done is modify the exhaust slightly remove the airbox lid and cut some holes in the "mounds" were the air filter sits (pictures soon). so i did this again last night with a buddy on a modified gsxr 1000 (full exhaust, race air box, race ecu). when i hit top speed at 187mph (at the limiter)indiciated his bike was reading 173 mph! his bike has a speedo healer, he then opened it up and got 179 mph out of his. so thats as close to scientific as i can get it without actually doing some sensor wiring etc. interesting thing though is when i got on his bike and he on mine, the 1125R did 189 mph and i could not get his past 175 mph.
oh, and just in case your wondering it took right around 3-4 miles from 90 mph to get up and over 160 mph according to the gsxr's speedo. it also took 9 minutes to get the fuel light on!
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Jammin_joules
Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Imonabuss, thanks for your kind words. But I too am mad as hell Buell got canceled yet I cannot be part of lambasting dealerships and even H-D for the il-fated poor decision of Wandell in the board room. I refuse to be part of the problem by not trying to bring balance to the topic no matter if some have deaf ears on the matter.

Any dealer still selling Buell in 2007 and beyond put a lot of capital and effort into keeping the brand available. Granted, some of them did it very ineptly and perhaps caused more problems than good they may have created with the loyal Buell followers. But they still had the brand and took product they did not know how to sell making it available to potential new buyers. Harley finance, to this very day, offers many a buyer a chance to finance purchases. At least half of my record number of Buell buyers since black Thursday used Harley finance to purchase their Buells. I doubt many recent buyers now vocal about terrible dealerships lead the charge by boycotting them for this service.

All these things that got Buell to where they were until Wandell pulled the plug; XB platform, XBRR, Loki platform, AMA championship, etc..

like 75% of [HD dealers] voted that killing Buell was a good thing. So don't expect to convince people here to think of the dealer network kindly.
You cite a single survey of a small number of dealers, the population of which had or still sold Buell was undetermined. Of course non-Buell daelers would agree with the decision. But talking to the dealers who still sell Buell, especially the dealers who sponsor BadWEB or those who race Buells, and that conclusion is not so evident. Taking a reporters non-scientific survey, used to support his agenda and sell news, should not be proof positive H-D dealers shut the brand down. It was H-D dealers that would buy Erik & the Elves first hand made products off the H-D dealer show floor before Harley gave Buell a penny.

I just feel a good many dealers are being lumped into this decision unfairly and that does no single Buell owner any good if it screws their attitude towards the dealer that are trying to still support the brand. Worse, I read so many tasteless comments about FAG, HOG riders who have never said one bad thing about Buell riders and done nothing wrong except prefer a Harley to Buell.

Back on topic.

We took a couple stock Buell Loki to Bonneville to run on the Salt. A CR is something like 8% shorter geared than an 1125R, which are what we took. Top speed was 167mph for the 1125R. So I believe there is no way a stock 1125CR outran that. Mechanics aren't there to over come the physics. Plus modifying the exhaust with less back pressure, and not retuning the ECM for injection and timing modification, at high rpm likely would result in some unburnt mixture getting through and develop less power than letting the Hemholtz-based
tuned exhaust do its thing.
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Moosestang
Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My speedo is off by 5mph compared to my wifes car and that's at 80mph indicated on my speedo. Just imagine how off it would be at top speed.

I'm going to check it with gps next.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know what the top speed is, but I can tell you that in 3rd gear WOT on a CR the front end gets MIGHTY light. : )
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Prophet_136
Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah same here, i will do this with my gps and see what the speed is. i dont think i will be able to do it at top speed but maybe a few intervals of speed then calculate. just for the record i didnt say mine was fully correct at top speed. just going by what i had to make the measurments.
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Xtreme6669
Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yours is way outa wack! the good thing is that it reads high and that will help with getting tickets if you actually ever look at it...(I only seem to check mine when it's already too late)
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