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Archive through November 26, 2009Sknight30 11-26-09  02:07 am
         

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Fresnobuell
Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 02:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Quieter
Cleaner
Lighter
Safer (for crankcase)
Maintenance free
Less lash

What else am i missing?

I friggin love my belt and virtually all my IL4 riding buddies are envious for the above reasons. It's just an elegant solution.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 03:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cost? The belt may cost more upfront, but your not changing sprockets at every oil change. No lubricants to purchase either. No adjustments on Buell's.

Only real advantage of the chain is the ability to easily change ratios on for the track, and chains tend to hold up better off road.

I like my belt, but I can understand why some people switch to chain : )
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Diablo1
Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If belts are superior, why didn't Buell use a belt for the cam drive on the 1125, like Ducati does?
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wondered the same. I don't have a official answer, but my guess is to keep maintenance costs down as it would have to be constantly checked, and also possible space constraints.

Its not like a drive belt where if that snaps, you can just throw another one on and go about your business.
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Lastonetherebuys
Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just happened Saturday @ 21,000 km, arriving at a light while making a clutchless downshift into 1st.

They build clutches into bikes for a reason
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If belts are superior, why didn't Buell use a belt for the cam drive on the 1125, like Ducati does?

Oh. I thought this was a thread on drive belts. my bad. But if Ducati does it, it must be right.
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Diablo1
Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh. I thought this was a thread on drive belts. my bad. But if Ducati does it, it must be right.

So, a cam drive belt is not a drive belt? Actually, because Ducati does it, doesn't make it right either. Just pointing out that Ducati thinks cam belt drive and chain final drive are good ideas, and Buell thinks that chain cam drive and belt final drive are good ideas. The rest of the motorcycle world thinks chain cam drive and chain final drive are good ideas.}
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Iamarchangel
Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's my observation on the original post. How many mechanics did it take to find a broken belt?

Hmm, let's see. Symptoms: bike revs, gears change but no power goes to rear wheel. Well, I could start a transmission rebuild or, gosh, I could take out five screws and check the small pulley. Decisions, Decisions.

Oh, and let's tell the owner he should have got a chain for the simple reason that it would make it a bit easier for me to troubleshoot.

Oh yeah, their opinion has value.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 01:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Or they could just look at the rear sprocket and see something looks odd : D
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 02:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, and let's tell the owner he should have got a chain for the simple reason that it would make it a bit easier for me to troubleshoot.

I question anyone that is "troubleshooting" a non-op bike and missing something so obvious as a missing belt. Give the fourth person a cookie. It says loads more about the people involved than anything about the belt or bike.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 02:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, a cam drive belt is not a drive belt?

The cam belt/chain would be found inside the engine. The (final) drive belt would be found connecting the motor and rear wheel.

The rest of the motorcycle world thinks chain cam drive and chain final drive are good ideas

I don't even know where to begin with this..}
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Diablo1
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The (final) drive belt would be found connecting the motor and rear wheel.

Didn't the original poster find his drive belt laying on the road?....}
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