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Eagle1
Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm Ok. The bike's not too bad (need a left-side mirror).

The ironic part to my story is that I was going to post a thread today to ask you all what are the limits to Diablo Corsa III's in the cold (<50) and wet. Well, I found out today the hard way.

It was an approx 30mph low-side. My first crash ever. I was going around a turn (more like an on-ramp) and I leaned-in too far. I think it must have been where the soft tread was.

I mangled my rain gear a little bit on the left knee and hip, put a little hole in my jeans underneath, and got two small abrasions on my knee and a fairly large rug-burn looking thing on my hip. It could have been much worse, and I was thanking God immediately afterword for keeping me safe.

I'm a little hesitant about riding now, because I was planning on riding through the winter here in DC (except days with ice or snow). Would that be reckless?

And I won't post the pics. The damage is the same as everyone else: scratched-up pod, clutch cover, and rear swingarm.
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Scott0827
Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry to hear Eagle1. Get well and ride on !!!!
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Freezerburn840
Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Damn! Main thing is Eagle you are okay.

Damage is minimal. I have been meaning to get some rear sliders for the swingarm.

Fortunately here in Southern Cali we dont get that weather. I wouldnt ride in the wet if I could help it.

But we dont have to sit and watch the rain outside just hoping for a break in the weather either. So I can understand wanting to ride in less than ideal conditions.

Get well and hopefully you and your ride will be back on the road in no time.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 06:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gear, gear, gear, gear.

Gear.

I ride year-round here in MD. Cooler or wet weather, I *always* have my Fieldsheer armor pants on over my jeans. Should have them on ALL the time...but I'm working on that ; ) Regardless of weather, I've got a fullface, armored gloves, and armored jacket. Dashboard of the Uly has a ski-jacket thermometer zipper thing velcroed to it so I have a rudimentary "hey stupid, watch for ice" gauge.

Good news is, now you know the limits of physics. Bad news is, the way you chose to find out : ) You're OK. The rest is easy.
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Metalrabbit
Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Theres a great bandage made, their sold along with the other Band-Aid stuff in Walgreens(SP) an such stores. They come in many sizes, see thru like material, can keep it on several days, has its own anticeptic and you can shower with'em on several times.

Wish I had the name for them, they are a real fix,, stop scabbing and the best is that they kill almost all the pain.

Layin' over at slow speeds is risky on any bike, low gyro effect from the wheels and the rubber is not hot enough. I haven't gotten bit on that yet but I've had the front step out several times.

(Message edited by metalrabbit on November 13, 2009)
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Marinus
Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glad you're whole.

When I commuted all winter in the city, (this was on a smaller bike) I ran the stupid-sticky Avon rain tires. They don't last a long time, they're not cheap -- but they work in the wet. AV49/AV50

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Brumbear
Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glad your alright


American for pain killer
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Monkey_man
Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 08:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just put my 1125R away. (I'm in MD)

Tires help but I don't know the limits on this new ride. Want to learn in ideal conditions.

Read the "Song of the Sausage Creature"
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Vanslam
Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glad your okay. How long were you riding before slipping. It can take a couple of miles before the tires heat up and become sticky. I was supprised at how not sticky they are until the tires warm up.
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Brumbear
Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I find the PC3 a great tire but the are very iffy cold and not a great rain tire as the stay cold
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Eagle1
Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey, thanks for all the kind words, guys.

I was only riding for about 2 miles when I went down. I guess that means the tires were nowhere near sticky enough. It'll be really weird now- not being able to lean-in further on the bike. Guess that means I'll have to take the corners really slow.

And yeah, I should really look into riding pants. I've wanted some for a while but don't know what kind to get.

Thanks again everyone!
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J2blue
Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not that experienced, so don't think I'm preaching, but as soon as the road surface gets wet I adopt a super conservative approach to riding. Treat the surface as though it were ice, don't trust your tires, and think, think, think. I'm not sure I would be willing to force myself into daily commutes in wet conditions yet. I usually encounter the stuff on weekends after I have departed expecting dry weather. I ride as long as it takes to get back to HQ. Sometimes that does mean riding in 100 + miles of wet here in Colorado.
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Xodot
Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm with J2blue. Super conservative in the wet. I high sided my y2k S3 at a crazy s-l-o-w speed and it got inside my head for months before I could ride with any confidence under any road conditions again.

If I may suggest: saddle up and get going again. Only time=miles got me trusting the bike again.

Oh yea, and I'm glad you're OK man.
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Iamarchangel
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good you're not too bad off.

Pants: got the Buell Adventure pants. Better price than the others and on sale in some places. Comfortable in all weather. Went over the bars last month, broke collarbone, pretty banged up. Physio said that both my knees were the most damaged he has seen without breaking. Barely a scuff on the pants. Padding was flat and can be replaced for about $25 (insurance pays).

Highly recommend them.

BTW, the conti road attacks seem to be pretty good in the rain. Might want to give them a try.
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Dc29
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heal up soon.At least no fractures or hospital time.Bikes can wait to be repaired, people not so much.I commute daily to Dallas rain or shine 70mi.round trip. When raining I take the xb12s with Michelin PP tires.IMO they improved the grip rain or dry.Can't wait to wear out the Corsa tires on the 12r so I can put M/PP on it and see if it feels better.At the current wear rate 1800mi. in 28 days it won't be long.
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Sl33py
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 03:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glad you are OK! It happens...

I do 50ish mi round trip daily in rain frequently - are those Avon AV50's the same as what were on the AMA pace bikes?

Heal up quick, get some good pants, and get riding asap! I always need some saddle time to get settled after going down - just takes time/miles to settle in again.

GL!
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 03:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glad you're ok and welcome to the crash club.

The eagle has landed.

Sorry couldn't help myself.
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Timxb9s
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 09:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on what J2blue said.

Back it down big time when roads get wet.
Keep throttle input smooth and slow. Decrease lean angle,and don't power thru turns at all!!! Most important, don't get nervous and tense up.
I ride year round here on Long Island. The one thing I learned over the years is tire technology has improved 100 fold since I started riding, but when you have a machine with a lot of HP you can't trust them in all conditions.
I am a huge Pirelli fan. Scorpion Synchs on my XB9(great in wet), Diablo Stradas on the FJR1300(good),and regular Corsas on the Ninja 650(good). Those Avons Marinus posted look like a nice winter tire, I'll have to spoon a set on the Ninja and check them out!!!
I have to admit though, Thursday I rode the 1125 to work. It started raining lightly toward the end of the day and I got worried about riding the bike home. Having only a few hundred miles on it and not being used to it. Thankfully, I had the 9 tucked away in our warehouse, so feeling more comfortable,having hundreds of rain miles on it, I rode that home.
Get yourself some good waterproof gear (with armor) and get back on.


Tim
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Vosnick52
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's going to to 75 down South today. I think I'm going to ride to the dealer to get the new 152 flash.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ride in rain like you're driving in snow - smooth, gradual inputs on throttle (open AND close), braking, and steering.

It should be gorgeous tomorrow - mid 70s if you believe the weatherdork. Get back on and ride, don't sit and worry. Sitting is the worst thing you can do. If you're bored, come on up to Fredneck and say hi, I work 11-4. www.buelloffrederick.com has a directions page, and we've got some *great* roads up here : )

IMS is in January for DC. That's where I got my fieldsheer pants.

Hm. Guess I don't have to worry about working the Buell booth this year, eh?
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rain = Slow. Like you're on a gravel road.

Never trust anything in the wet.

R
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Never trust anything in the wet.

what do women have to do with this.
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The eagle has landed.


Glad you're o.k., but I don't care who y'are, That's Funny.

R
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Never trust anything in the wet.

what do women have to do with this.



I said not to trust, I never said anything about not doing it. Just do it slowly and carefully.



R
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Eagle1
Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ratbuell, I'll definitely have to come up some time to say Hi. I've been needing an oil filter so I can do my next change.

Also, I'm wondering if (maybe to save some a buck and change the look of the bike) I should buy the "mirror deletes", or whatever they're called, and get bar-end mirrors.

As far as riding, I got back on the horse today. I don't think my confidence was shaken much, if at all. I also shared my experience with some folks at work (ER at a local hospital). They too, were just glad I was OK after knowing what COULD have happened.
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Fmaxwell
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 12:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been real happy with the Diablo Corsa III tires on my XB12Ss, but I have to admit that the motor on the 1125CR can definitely spin them up quickly when the road is anything other than warm and dry. As another poster has said, definitely not a good cold tire.
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Kevin_stevens
Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 12:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can't complain about Corsa IIIs, obviously they are a very popular tire and riders way better than I am like them very much.

That said - I don't. I didn't like them on my Ducati 748, and I don't like them on the 1125CR. Just in my head, I'm sure - but that's what counts. I'm putting on a set of BT-003RSs before heading to Laguna Seca next month.

KeS
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