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Homer007
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I’m pretty sure most of you choked on your own spit when you found out how much an oil filter costs at the local HD dealer. Mine wanted 25 bucks and this is without the happy ending. As most of you know, the hiflo flitro HF564 can be used but finding it online is almost impossible. This place

http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.as p?idProduct=7770

sells a two pack for 20 bucks which isn’t bad but when you factor in shipping, the cost is about 15 bucks a piece. Much cheaper than the dealers but still pretty high for an oil filter. The same site also sells an aprilia factory oil filter but at 20 bucks plus shipping, the total is almost 30 bucks. If you noticed, the part number for the factory oil filter is AP0956745. A quick search of the aprilia part number AP0956745 which cross-references the hiflo HF564 brought me to the site below:

http://www.apriliaparts.co.uk/?section=shop&produc t_section=spares&filter=1000cc

If you do a search using the part number, you’ll find that you can buy an aprilia factory filter for only 6.40 a piece. It shows 7.37 on the screen but when added into the cart, it comes up as 6.40. Not sure how that works but it’s cheaper so I’m not complaining. The only downside is that shipping is 12.37 but the more you order, the cheaper your per unit cost is. I got it with two other people and we order 12 filters for 90 bucks which comes out to about 7.50 per filter shipped. Keep in mind that this is also the factory aprilia filter going for 20 bucks elsewhere, not the cheaper hiflo ones.
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Moosestang
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 04:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hiflo probably makes them all, so just find the cheapest deal you can.
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Jsg4dfan
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 06:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great! AF1 is about 20 minutes from my home.

More than once I've thought about talking to them about the idea of making a serious effort to support 1125's. They are a great bunch of guys, and they have a fantastic tuner on staff.
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Xbud
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 06:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is a place that get them for you, there is a link listed.

http://www.powersportsuperstore.com/product-p/tr14 -0564.htm
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Dirty_john
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well I priced a genuine 1125R oil filter from my local dealer here in the UK and even after discount I was looking at £18 sterling so count yourselves lucky those of you who live in the USA, meanwhile I am in contact with Rotax direct to see if I can get hold of a boat load of filters cheap, failing that I will be talking to an Aprilla dealer
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Gotlime
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I found the hiflo filters on ebay at 4 for $35 plus shipping. If I recall correctly.........
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Ravnna431
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dose anyone know the proper o-ring needed for these? I don't believe these filters come with the rubber gasket?
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Freezerburn840
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ebay is a good source for the HiFlo's.

Now one of the biggest parts distributors in the states is Tucker Rocky. They stock these filters for $9.67 to the consumer. The only thing is we cant buy direct. Usually a local dealer that sells CanAm Spyder's or the top Japannese bikes (Honda, Kawi's Yamaha, Suzuki) in your area has an account with Tucker Rocky and can order for you. This is what I did and the dealer I deal with here in California is Temecula Motorsports and offered will call to skip freight charges I bought two for 20 bucks.

The Bunna O-rings I got at an industrial rubber company for nothing. I would think maybe a hardware store can direct you where to find its good to have the sample O-ring to match up while you are looking for a supplier.
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Whynot
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does using an aftermarket filter affect the warranty if you had an engine problem?

Just askin'...
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Freezerburn840
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If they deem that was the cause then the filter company needs to cough up the dough for it to be fixed. I sell Wix filters and they back up their filters with a warranty if it was deemed the filter was the cause.

So yes it could void the warranty on the engine if Harley has the proof that it was a filter failure.
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Fmaxwell
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No. I won't go into the FTC regs on this, but a manufacturer cannot deny you warranty coverage unless they can prove that a failure was caused by an aftermarket part.

There are some exceptions -- but they are not relevant here.
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Freezerburn840
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Precisely there has got to be proof they can't just say it.

(Message edited by freezerburn840 on November 10, 2009)
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Xnoahx
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Parts unlimited sells a filter for the 1125 also. $9.95 and can order them from most M/C shops. Does not include the $5 o ring
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Bunna O-rings I got at an industrial rubber company for nothing. I would think maybe a hardware store can direct you where to find its good to have the sample O-ring to match up while you are looking for a supplier.

aRE THERE specs for the O-ring so I can make phone calls and not have to drag an O-ring around town and try to match up?
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Romano
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Measuring O Rings can be tricky. The section of the O ring is easy with a vernier caliper. Don't use to much pressure so as to flatten the rubber. Best to measure a new one as old ones are usually a bit out of shape. This will be a metric O ring. The diameter will be best measured by referencing the housing the O ring lives in. The inside diameter here will be the one you need. These will be a Duro 30 nitrile rubber. Great info on the filter and yes in Australia they are priced like gold also. Cheers Romano.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I figured getting a measurement on something so thing and flimsy would be tricky. Oh well, there are only a couple shops in town that would stock those things anyway.

I bought 8 of the cheaper filters and they look very similar. No worries using it IMHO.

(Message edited by fresnobuell on November 10, 2009)
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Slypiranna
Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Awesome thread! FINALLY! Many thanks to all involved in posting great FACTUAL and USEFULL information!

Thank YOU! ...and to think it took just the oil filter for this to come about! LOL!

What else you all got?
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Zracer196
Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 08:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just bought a couple off of EBAY...

Nice find!
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Sportster_mann
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just for reference, here is the oil filter thread on UKBEG:

http://www.ukbeg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=344 8
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Homer007
Posted on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just an update on these Aprilia filters. I got them a while back and they do come standard with the rubber o rings where as the hiflo ones do not. You save the hassle of having to buy the rings separately or having to reuse the old rings. I did get charge an international fee of $1.50 but hell, it’s still way cheaper than anything I can find locally..



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