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Archive through November 06, 2009Velocity30 11-06-09  10:26 am
         

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Ratsmc
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Velocity, I must admit I feel a little foolish now. That is the logical solution to the problem and what I should have tried when I first noticed the problem.
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Donutclub
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I installed a catch can made out of an energy drink to catch any fumes or gasoline drips. However, the catch can has been dry since I installed the insulation on the inside of the frame. I made several changes at the same time (ie: FMF exhaust and Jardine Protune), so It's hard to say what solved it. If I had to guess, it would be the insulation on the inside of the frame.
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Joebuell
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

any other "tests" on the gas cap fix? hell if it's that simple.....
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Ratsmc
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Donutclub, what did you use for insulation?

Joebuell, I'll let you know what I find this afternoon.
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Milleniumx1
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not that I needed a reason to ride my 09R today, but I figured I had to just to test the fuel cap fix. I rode for over an hour, even topped off the tank close to home so it was good and full, and still hot.

When I shut it down and removed the cap, I still got fumes from the vent tube, but no drips. After waiting about 10 minutes, I put the cap back on and then I got a few drips out of the tube, but nothing like it normally did.

Until I can be bothered to install the canister, I'll just use the fuel cap plus my $3 line running to the outside to keep the wife and kids happy. I've actually enjoyed tinkering with it, so I'm good.

Mike
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Bwbueller
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As long as the wife is happy and the bike is running.. life is good! Heck I guess leaking gas and fumes is better than mine... gushing oil! : )
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Velocity
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ratsmc, I also lined the frame with heat mat from Summit racing equip. You can get different sizes with adhesive backing,pretty cheep and cut pieces to fit. So far 3,000 miles it has not peeled up. I ended up rotating the engine to get in there. A pain but had time in the winter.

Scott
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1buell1125r
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ordered the canister and it was on backorder.So telling people my Buell is marking its spot and its feeling a little gassy will soon be in the past...

(Message edited by 1Buell1125R on November 06, 2009)
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Ratsmc
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay, gas cap results:

It does work but it isn't a perfect solution.

Opening the cap briefly when you first stop cuts the drip about 60-70% so that is an improvement. Leaving the cop off while the bike cools prevents the drip altogether however, then you have some fumes from the tank itself. Still way better than fumes from gas on the floor but still enough to be noticed by the wife.

Velocity, the insulation idea just makes sense in general. Anything you can do to keep the fuel cooler is a good idea for every reason. Living in Phoenix, we are just starting the riding season and our "winter break" is during the summer when it is 115 degrees (ATGATT) so I won't have a good opportunity to take advantage of down time until then.

Did rotating the motor require you to disconnect anything? While I have always built or radically modified all my bikes in the past, this one is so new I haven't learned its anatomy yet and Buells are, well, odd.
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Brumbear
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

try looping the drain tube and release pressure by pulling cap best place to loop the hose is under seat
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Velocity
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ratmc, Yes you do have to disconnect several things, wire harness plugs,fuel rail. You really should get the service manual. You can do it without disconnecting the radiators. On a lift is much easier, might be a pain on the floor. Someone did it on here and posted pics, do a search. I also had my headers front and rear ceramic coated. I would say it helped but how much is debatable. I also moved the O2 senors to the 09 location,remember mine is an 08 in the end put a tune on it from a third party. All helped reduce temps.

Scott
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Ohsoslow
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i like the inline fuel filter idea; cheap, simple, and works. i think i will try.
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Milleniumx1
Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't really understand the inline fuel filter idea. But if it were to work (I have my doubts based on what I've seen so far), there are some nicer looking ones than the plastic bulb looking ones. My $3 outside hose is going the job, but it does seem the extra length results in a bit more dripping ... But since it's not in my garage, I'm not all that bothered.

Mike
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