| Author | Message | ||
     Avalaugh |
Had my 08 R for a couple of weeks, not done many miles on it as i was getting used to it, thought it turned in a bit strange and put it down to new bike, different tyres to what im used too etc. Rolled it down a hill yesterday with the engine off, could here brakes binding. Today in my garage i thought i'd check it out, rear brake seized/binding so sorted that and checked the front too, up on a paddock stand the wheel could move very easyily left to right and up and down about 2-3mm Had i not had the front wheel in the air i would not of known as there was no movement with weight on the ground. Booked in tomorrow under warranty but still well pissed as the dealer i bought it from(100 miles from my house) told me it had a full pre sale inspection, i cant beleive that in the 150-200 miles ive done the rear brake has seized/binding (its kept in carpeted garage and not rode in the wet) and the front wheel bearing failed !!! So anyone bought an '08' please check the bearings periodically as this could of been disasterous (Message edited by avalaugh on November 04, 2009) | ||
| Ccryder |
Been there done that. I always "finger" my bearings during a tire change. I caught my front ones b4 they went too bad. The rear ones ended up so bad that the wheel had to be replaced at 25,000 miles. | ||
| Froggy |
Yep thats why most of the 09's come with newer bearings that prevent this, and the 2010's have a totally different 3 bearing setup on the rear. | ||
| Cafefun |
gotta be honest, if you read alot on this board Buell has all kinds of small problems like this that just should not happen. it's really sad cause that is why they are gone IMO. everyone that hears I bought a Buell says to me how many problems you had so far. I mean they have been building bikes long enough this shit should have been fixed years ago. My Cr with 456 miles has been flawless and I've rode it hard. I hope it continues as I love the bike. really loved my 2000 m2 as well but when the shop had it more then me it was time to go. bike was a piece of shit. I know alot of you guys stuck by Buell no matter what but you gotta agree there bikes should have been better long ago. took me 9 yrs to try again. if it was not for the 1125 motor would have stayed away still. Don't get me wrong I don't mind working on my bikes to keep them going either. | ||
| Froggy |
At least Buell's issues get resolved. I know another maker that denies any issues with a 650cc dual sport that has a bad cam tensioner, and the bike was made for like 20 years with no factory fix. Also, in 3 years of Buelling, I have never been asked how many problems I had. If they asked, I would tell the truth, as out of my 5 Buell's, the only one that actually had any issues was my Uly, and everything was fixed in a timely manner under warranty. | ||
| Cafefun |
Froggy your die hard Buell which is great. you have to admit this is what hurt Buell. Even the mags ripped on them for years. And It's really to bad as they are very cool bikes, just alot of little stuff keeping them from being great. Don't take this as a slam to buell that's not what I meant at all. My Cr is the most fun I've had on a bike for years. Buells issues did not get resolved fast enough. | ||
| Avalaugh |
it's not really the Buell im pissed at, half the reason i got it is because it has charecter unlike my previous Jap bikes. Its the bloody dealer not doing what i had been told had ! | ||
| Ccryder |
Brent: It's hard to understand why M/C mags like/ dislike one M/C over another. Did you know that every 1098 tested by a M/C magazine had a race ECM. They were virtually unrideable below 4,000 rpm because of the surging. Hmm hard to figure what a level playing field really is??? My ST1300 went through 2 sets of front and 3 sets of rear wheel bearings in the first 20,000 miles. At 84,000 miles that issue has finally stopped. Oh yeah don't ask me about the 5 water pumps that have been replaced including the whole front engine casting (twice). Hey it's a Honda and it's one of the best 2 up sport-touring rides around. Time2Roll | ||
| Cafefun |
Oh I don't disagree one bit, but Buell has had more smaller issues then anyone. And it's to bad really My cr is a great bike i hate to see it not made anymore. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
but still well pissed as the dealer i bought it from Was this bike new or used? If used, the dealer could very well have missed a notchy bearing if the bike came with good, new tires. Unless the bearings were visibly bad, it'd be hard to tell that they needed to be replaced. I hate that you are out a bike for a few days, but it sounds like you are going to have your bike fixed. | ||
| Ccryder |
Brent: yep you are sooo right. I've been around Buells for 10+ years and IMHO, they hit a homerun with the 1125 series!!!!!!! This is the Buell I wanted 10 years ago. Later | ||
| Cafefun |
Im so dissapointed my seasons is almost over as I can't get enough miles on this thing. | ||
| J2blue |
No one has to admit anything Brent. Keep reading this board for a full year and you will find out that it isn't Buell that had a problem, but the damn HD dealerships they were forced to be serviced through. Every brand has lots of little problems if you sample all the buyers. What matters is how each little item gets resolved. My 2003 XB9s, which I purchased only a year ago, has not had any defects of manufacture. It is a solid bike that I can count on. So far my new CR is performing well, too. I also have a blast whose only design/manufacturing flaw was the dern rubber carb boot, but that is so easy and cheap to fix it isn't worth mentioning. Sure, we are diehard Buellers, but it isn't like we are fanboys for the MG Midget! | ||
| Avalaugh |
It was a used bike, but i was showed the PDI for my sale, had to sign it too, and wheel bearings etc were on it as being checked! It is being sorted though under warranty. My point really of the post is to point out to others that the wheel bearings must be checked regulary, as some people may not have paddock stands this would be difficult but necessary. After speaking with my local dealer today (very helpful btw) it was said the main cause for the wheel bearings going would be the way the bike sits on its side stand, the wheels centers are are hollowed, and when the bike is left out in the rain for a period or washed and not moved, the water sits on the spindle inside the wheel and gets into the wheel bearing seals, thus causing them to rust/dry out and fail. He reckoned nearly all the wheel bearings that have failed on the Buells were worse on the left hand side as thats the way it leans on the side stand. He also printed me off all the recalls that have been carried out on my bike so far, 8 bloody recalls, all fairly minor. | ||
| Doerman |
....wheel bearings going would be the way the bike sits on its side stand... Interesting. That would explain why mine is fine in Cali after 25K miles. | ||
| Bueller_bjorn |
Yep my rear bearings were shot at 4k miles. I do live in NY and drove it in the salted roads in the early spring. But my XB12r had 8k when I traded it in for my 1125 and I never had to replace the bearings. I just think they were never greased properly from the factory. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Unless the bearing was removed, it would be hard to detect deterioration from the back side (inside the hub). If they PDI'd the bike, they probably visually inspected the bearing. May have even stuck their fingers in and turned it. The inside could have been completely FUBAR and they wouldn't have known it. Sorry it happened, but it appears that they are getting you all taken care of. | ||
| Fast1075 |
I have been around bikes a long time...EVERYTHING built in the 60's, 70's and early 80's was a POS...as far as being able to put large numbers of miles up without major problems. Flash forward to the early Hyabusa and ZX years...all it took to explode a motor was to roll the throttle off during a high speed pass...the camchain tensioner would break the chain...and KABOOM!!! bye bye motor...A.P.E. made a ton of money building billet manual tensioners to stop the breakage....Even the mighty KZ1100 suffered...one good clutch pop with a sticky tire...twisted crank/broken cases... I expect to have to tinker with my bikes...I never had one that didn't need constant attention....partly the engineering....partly my right fist...the trick is to make it better after it breaks...eliminate the weak link....expose the next weakest...if wheel bearings and such are a big deal...never take up 4 wheeling of any kind....especially mud bogging...that is another of my favorite sports...and it takes HUGE work to keep one running. (Message edited by fast1075 on November 05, 2009) | ||
| Chadhargis |
I've never owned a bike that didn't have some issue. Some I fixed myself, so I took it back to the dealer for. I guess I just expect it. On a new bike, you have a warranty. On a used bike, be sure you don't blow your whole budget on the bike so you have some in reserve to repair/replace bits and pieces. | ||
| Kevin_stevens |
Re explanation about the wheel bearings - wouldn't it be the RIGHT side bearings that would hold water if the bike were on the side stand? KeS | ||
| Avalaugh |
No, bike leans to the left, water runs inside the wheel, runs down spindle/axle and into inside left wheel bearing. Thats how it was explained to me ! | ||
| Ccryder |
I just think his story doesn't hold water ;+}, ;+}............ Anyway we had been betting that the issue on the Uly and 1125 were on opposite sides (at least my rear bearing issue). Common thought is was a result of the added load due to the drive belt. That is why, IIRC, Buell added the 3rd bearing in 2010, hmmmmm. Does my logic make any sense???? later Time2Train | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Which side is YOUR kickstand on? |
