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Archive through November 04, 2009Cafefun30 11-04-09  06:22 pm
         

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T_man
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cafefun - I totally agree with you on the hard break-in method. I've done the same with a few of my big Suzuki's and they all turned out to be blisteringly fast. I've got a a question or two for you though;
1) What is the fastest pass you've run on your new CR and what elevation is the track you run at?
2) What is the elevation and correction factor from that dyno run?
Thanks!
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Cafefun
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tman track was closed when I bought the Buell so it will be April before I can run it. For what it's worth I've been 9.14 at 153 on my zx 14 pump gas stock motor with bolt-ons and I'm no light weight. 218 unsuited. we are about 1000 feet above sea level here don't know the correction factor.
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T_man
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Holy sh*t man. Thats fast. Good on ya. I'm curious to hear about what you can do with your CR. The reason I asked about elevation is because of it has a tremendous effect on engine performance - dyno or otherwise.
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Cafefun
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well most of the year when my track is open we race in about 2100 feet of air plus or minus some. in the heat of august I've seen it as high as 3400 ft. I have a weather station so I keep an eye on it pretty well.
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Cafefun
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ya it is STD factor that's all any dynos I've ever been to use.
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Redscuell
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Made 138.56HP and 74.41 for Torque bike is bone stock with 443 miles on it."

I agree with the other posters, that hp figures is VERY strong for a stocker; generally 128 or so is the norm. The torque figure is more 'normal'.

Look at us, wondering how the 1125 in stock form could be making so much LESS than claimed. Yes, I know (now) that claimed is at the flywheel.
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T_man
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe Buell got it right with these new flashes?
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Seems 'bout right. New bike baseline on my 09 CR, 12 miles on the odometer, 95 degrees ambient, 29.79 barometer, 26% humidity, 132.76hp / 74.56 tq. M3PUS12z calibration.
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Redscuell
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My hp and tq numbers changed not at all between the 11Z and 12Z flashes; so I wouldn't expect a flash would be the answer. The power limitation is in the muffler, so I'd have to wonder how, when the typical 1125 in stock form produces 128 hp and 72 tq (many posts to that effect on Badweb), the increase was accomplished.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Production variance / better degreed cams? Mine's all stock too....relatively early (10/08) build.
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T_man
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Red - the power limitation is NOT in the muffler as has been well documented by O-S-B tuners and many others. Furthermore, the fellas at Twinmotorcycles have conclusively shown that accurate fuel mapping IS the last word in maximum power. Therefore my friend, I'd wager to say that a new flash encompassing a better fuel map could in fact produce these higher dyno numbers.
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Cafefun
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know most bikes we put on this dyno seem pretty much right on. won't say it's not off 2 or 3 hp one way or another but it's not off 10.
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