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T_man
Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Could we have some willing participants list thier respective (unaltered learned) Front & Rear AFV's with the corresponding elevation of thier location (or if the elevation is not known, just the location).

Example. Mine were;

a) Moose Jaw, SK, Canada
b) Elevation - 1900ft
c) AFV F94.5 AFV R89.5

For tuning purposes fellas! Thanks!
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Buell920
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 12:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

if it were as simple as that DELPHI, DDFI, PerGo......nevermind



have fun.
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Dalton_gang
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think this was done like a year ago.

You should try searching the archives.

(Message edited by Dalton_Gang on September 27, 2009)
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Doerman
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 01:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There was a thread in early 08 about this and it did not reach a conclusion regarding AFV and altitude.

For instance, I live in Cali at 500 above sea level and routinely ride up to as high as 8,000 ft. I have not seen a consistent change in AFV as a result of riding at higher altitudes.
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T_man
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, thanks guys - forget it then. I also remember a thread about this - but without the elevation aspect. I am trying to get a bead on by what increment the ECU leans out the mixture with elevation.

I just did a search and found all sorts of opinions and arguements relating this very topic - a can of worms indeed. I'll pull what info I can from there.

(Message edited by t_man on September 27, 2009)
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Dalton_gang
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/400477.html

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/357181.html
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Bob_thompson
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

T-man, my experience here at 4200 ft. is if I ride here at that elevation I have a certain AFV which usually does not change with a ride into the canyons and go to 9000 ft. but if I do an extended ride of many hours in the canyons up high they do change by reducing fuel somewhat. I cannot tell just how long it takes but usually quite a long time. I only check occasionally so its hard to tell exactly how long it takes. I think Zac4mac found a similar experience when he did his ride to Homecoming last year from Colorado to Wisconsin.

Also a post by one of the good experienced fuel tuners, who will go nameless, has found that other sensors, such as barometric pressure and temp. play a part in fueling as well when changing elevations.
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think there is a sensor that checks the manifold absolute pressure, and therefore adjust some parameter other than the afv's to modulate the fueling when changing altitude. I believe those that have the afv;s locked do not have an issue when riding low to high or back.

Can we hear from somebody with locked afv's that has experience in a significant change in altitiude?

FWIW, I live on the coastal plains in South Texas. No elevation change here for 100 miles in any direction...

R
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Xbswede
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

locked AFV's and did a ride from sea level to 6000 ft with no issues. Ran smooth the whole time.
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