| Author | Message | ||
     Jpowell490 |
Working on my subject titles  <----checks to see if Blake is around....  Anyway, took a ride up to get the noid resistor Friday and noticed around 4000 to 4500 rpm the engine sounded like a car with a bad valve adjustment in the top end. I had Mobil 1 V-twin Syn in it. The engine was also very noisey at idle. I had posted in another post that I used Amsoil in my harley and never noticed any issues. The noise was really bothering me after getting back from the couple hour trip. So I started doing some research on the Mobil 1 vs. Amsoil and really didn't find any comparisons besides the ones Amsoil does saying they are better than everyone else. I bit the bullet and sprung another 70 bucks and changed the oil again at 1k with the Amsoil 20w50. Almost immediately upon startup the noise had subsided. After a quick 15 minute ride the noise was gone completely and the engine temp was 15 degrees cooler than the Mobil 1. So are all the MLM marketing claims of Amsoil true? They might just be, I won't run anything else after this. The tests I looked at had Mobil 1 in second place behind Amsoil. I am sure Mobil is great oil, but I hated the engine noise. Just an FYI for those debating what I was. | ||
| Ccryder |
Did you have the same noises with the original oil? For the money, IMHO, Syn 3 is pretty darn good. I liked Mobil 1 in my Tubers but in my 12r and 1125 I just run SYn 3 and don't worry about it. Time4Sleep. Neil S. | ||
| Blake |
I would have titled the thread "Engine noise & Temp. Reduced with Amsoil vs Mobil-1". Concerning the oil and effects on noise and temperature: I'm thinking that there are way too many variable to possibly make any conclusion as you have. Ambient temperature, length and nature of rides, age and viscosity grades of oil, ambient noise conditions... | ||
| Jpowell490 |
Yea if whatever you are using works for you, then keep using it by all means. Blake, yea I agree this time, that would be a better title, change it if you wish. Temp was pretty much the same, lenght and nature were similar. Mobil 1 was put it at 498 miles and changed to Amsoil at 1k. both 20w50 using new Rotax filters each time. As far as noise, nothing to note that would stand out as far as ambient is concerned. | ||
| Marcodesade |
Not to threadjack, but I could tell (well enough) what the thread would be from the title this time. I'd like to recognize progress. Good job Jpowell. I've only been using the Syn3 so far, but was considering changing next time. I'd like to hear your impressions in a couple hundred (or thousand) miles. Please follow up later. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Mobil 1 V-Twin oil is one the best on the market. Amsoil is THE best, IMO. However, there is no way that the change to Amsoil made mysterious noises disappear or reduced coolant temps 15 degrees unless you didn't have enough Mobil 1 in the motor. | ||
| T_man |
I use Amsoil in mine and ride HARD. Even with the original flash my temps hardly ever breaking 200F. I attribute some of this to the quality of the oil. I expected I'd have to add a bit of oil after 1000 miles of abuse - but alas it didn't even burn an ounce! I'm very happy with Amsoil 20w50. | ||
| Dentguy |
However, there is no way that the change to Amsoil made mysterious noises disappear or reduced coolant temps 15 degrees unless you didn't have enough Mobil 1 in the motor. +1. Jpowell490, If I read your post right you noticed the noise on friday. You said you had the Mobil 1 in for 500 miles. Was it making the noise for 500 miles or did it just start on friday? | ||
| Chadhargis |
When I got my bike, it had 250 miles on it with the factory oil. It ran fine and never got very hot. 200 at the highest, even creeping in traffic. I changed to Amsoil 20W-50 at the 620 mile service, and low and behold, it does appear to run a few degrees cooler. I don't think I've seen it go above 200 degrees since, but as mentioned above, too many variables. I don't think it's been hot enough to make it get that hot. I've always run Redline synthetic until I got my diesel Grand Cherokee and Amsoil is one of the few companies that makes the oil specified for it, so now I order in bulk to save on shipping and run Amsoil in all my vehicles. My friend is a dealer, so it helps him too. It's a "win/win". | ||
| Carbonbigfoot |
I dig amsoil. All I use. Not to threadjack, but I could tell (well enough) what the thread would be from the title this time. I'd like to recognize progress. Good job Jpowell. +1!!! Trending positive! R | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I didn't really care for Amsoil and switched back to Syn3. Others swear by it. | ||
| Jpowell490 |
Hmm strange Ft_bstrd, never tried Syn3 so I really can't comment on that. Fresno, I had the Mobil 1 in for 500 miles. I did the first change at 498 and that was to Mobil 1 V-Twin. At just a tad over 1k, I switched to the Amsoil. It was making that ticking noise the whole 500 miles, was driving me crazy. I just went out and rode close to 300 miles today and absolutely NO ticking at all. The temperature was in the mid to upper 80s today. My coolant temp even sitting in traffic never got over 182. It usually gets to around 202, but that was when it was new so maybe it is getting broken in better. However, the temp did drop 15 degrees between the Mobil and the Amsoil. I just paid the 20 bucks to become a "preferred customer" with Amsoil and I am ordering a case for the bike and a case for the new car. I took the side cover off yesterday and noticed the coolant was low in the sight glass, so I purchased some of Red Line's water wetter and topped the reservoir off, that made a couple of degrees difference, but not enough to mention. Amsoil DID make that kind of difference I am telling you. The motor sounded like it was about to come apart ever since I got it, but I figured that was typical in Buell/Harley engines, but all is quite now. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
If the Amsoil is working for you, I'd stick with it. It doesn't matter if people believe it's better or not. I didn't notice any difference, but that doesn't mean there isn't any. Which oil is the "right" oil is only slightly less contentious than which religion is best. If'n your girl likes it, give her what she wants.  | ||
| Chadhargis |
Honestly, the oil debate is pretty humorous. When you look at oil comparisons, they often differ only by a few parts per MILLION. Most likely, condensation or some other containment got in your Mobil 1 either from short run time at lower temp or something and changing the oil flushed it out. The only reason I run Amsoil is because they sell the Mercedes Benz spec required by my diesel Jeep. I buy in bulk for all my vehicles to save on the shipping cost. Amsoil also carries all the filters I need (haven't checked on the 1125 yet). It's a one stop shop for me. Amsoil does, however, test among the top oils, so it's a quality product. | ||
| Amrider |
I end up going through .2L every 750 mi. with Syn3 sounds like I should try Amsoil. |
