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Ths
Posted on Friday, August 28, 2009 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hello! I'am Tom and i live in Finland, sorry my english. Here is a little story off my bike. First in the clutch was leak, that was fix by warranty. Then i was in the track day ride in the slow group and my front brake fade out only after 5 laps the fluids boil, the crash was close. I was very mad and think how this is possible in 2009 sportbike. I ride carefully only for my own fun not race speed. So i change the fluids for motul600 factory line and pads for EBC. Only week after that me and my wife have a ride in countryside the rear brake jammed and i don't at first note that, after 20km i stop and notice that outer pad was gone. Only the pads metal body was left and everything was dam hot. So i twist with screwdriver the outer pad and cylinder in, so we get to go home. Now comes the funny part, i take the bike to dealer and the Buell importer start to tell me that because i was ride bike in track the warranty don't fix the rear brake. I said what the F....! It was happen in the road. Now i wait for what happen and dealer is inspected the rear brake, only the outer cylinder was jammed not the inner and inner pad was full. And they think that it is my fault. I think that if 2009 Buell 1125CR brakes are dangerous their must fix the brakes quick and be sorry what happen. I truly love the bike but now i don't trust bike, importer, dealer and Buell.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Friday, August 28, 2009 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry to hear of your problems. I've got a CR myself and I've not had any issues with the brakes. In fact, they work very well.

I ride fairly hard, and I've put them through their paces, and they have been fine.

I don't think I've heard of anyone having any brake issues.
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P_squared
Posted on Friday, August 28, 2009 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry to hear of your problems. I believe your bike can still be covered under warranty for a trackday. If it was raced, no warranty. That's something I would look into with your dealer & BCS.

As for your rear brake problem, the only "complaint" I've seen/heard is that it doesn't have enough stopping power in some folks opinions. What you're describing is new to me.
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Mhpalin
Posted on Friday, August 28, 2009 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Tom that sucks I have a cr and my front brakes work great but the rears make aloud groan and don't work very good so I just don't use them my dealer says it's no big deal who knows Mike
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Ths
Posted on Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 04:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I say for importer and dealer that i don't race only training raiding in a slow group. Rear brake break up in a road no't in track. I read warranty rules last night i notice too that it only talk about race raiding. I think that it is not important where you raid road or track(no race) the brakes must work in 2009 model bike only a 6000km/3750mile in the odo. In promotion videos they show hard raiding by pros and when raider like me who raid"granny" speeds get brakes break up there is big problem. Is there a other brakes in the promotion video bikes? :-)
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Black
Posted on Sunday, August 30, 2009 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ths,

I hate to say this, but if you are using that brake heavily, you got pretty decent wear out of it based on my experience. I am kind of heavy on the back brake (a function of my age and bad habits over time). Bottom line is the front brake is where most of your stopping power is anyway. Check out the Motorcycle Safety Foundation. I just replaced rear brake shoes and a rotor at similar mileage to yours. It wasn't the bike, or the shoes, or the rotor, or the dealer, or Buell.....it was me.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, August 31, 2009 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I use my rear brake a lot, especially in Winter.
Also with the OEM exhaust I was dragging them every time I rode to clean the shit off them.

I replaced my rears at 13k miles and have a Drummer - they stay clean now, no need to drag.
21.5k now and almost ready for new fronts.
The new pads are in the drawer waiting.

Z
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Ron_luning
Posted on Monday, August 31, 2009 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ths,
Note that a brake with a rotor has a pad and not a shoe (you said it correctly). Drum brakes have shoes. Also, since you managed to get front brake fade after 5 laps you clearly are not excessively using the rear brake.
You stated that you replaced the pads with EBC and fluid with Motul. Was that for just the front, or both front and rear brakes?

The problem is that brake pads are usually considered a "wear" item. This means that unless they fail in an extremely short time, most vehicle manufacturers will blame the vehicle operator.

If you replaced those rear pads with EBC pads, it makes it more difficult to get Buell to cover them under warranty because they are not Buell parts.

If they are still the original Buell pads, you might have to compromise and see if the dealer will do the labor (work) under warranty if you pay for new rear pads. I'm sorry you're having a hard time with the dealer, but you are definitely not the only person with that problem.
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R2s
Posted on Monday, August 31, 2009 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like you might be using the rear brake a bit to much. On a street bike you should be using mostly the front brake since most of the weight transfers to the front tire. Most only use it for riding around town and in traffic, and even then only a little.

And if you changed the pads your self I can see how they might be hesitant to warranty it.
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Ths
Posted on Monday, August 31, 2009 - 06:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know that the pads are normal consumable parts, but there is something other malfunction in caliper. I use rear brake very very very rarely because front brake is the one which stop the bike and when i ride in track i don't use rear at all. The rear brake is original, with pads and fluids and everything. I'am smooth rider i don't "punish" bike. I was very pissed off but now i'am little bit cooled down :-). I talk with dealer and they find something fault from the rear brake but they couldn't tell me yet what that is.

(Message edited by ths on August 31, 2009)
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