| Author | Message | ||
     Avc8130 |
Anyone know why Buell doesn't have online microfiche anywhere? It really makes ordering parts much easier with the Japanese guys. It seems like Buell doesn't allow it. Is it just to make $30 on parts manuals or is there a "better" reason? ac | ||
| Crackhead |
microfiche?? | ||
| Avc8130 |
True, microfiche is dead. Parts catalog. All of the Japanese and even some European manufacturers allow their dealers to put parts catalogs online so customers can search for part numbers and see how stuff fits together easily. Just CURIOUS why Buell doesn't do this. ac | ||
| 1324 |
Welcome to HD land. | ||
| Zac4mac |
Hey at least with Buell, you can register as an owner and download the Owner's Manuals back to 2005 for free. H-D charges 20 bucks+ for any year OM. Z | ||
| Ridenusa4l |
go to Buell Parts they have ALOT of things there OEM related... Jake | ||
| Froggy |
Actually, Buell had an online parts system before any other motor vehicle company was even online. HD came and fixed that. | ||
| Avc8130 |
So it is because HD wants us in the dealership? The problem there is that with an HD an owner might need a part. They go to the dealer and yes, maybe they buy some of the 1000+ t-shirts, coffee mugs, chess sets, etc in the store while they are there. Go to the dealer for a Buell part and there usually isn't anything like that to buy. To make it worse, the only dealer that has anything Buell tags all of their shirts with their logo. Not what I want. ac | ||
| Court |
Some of the information on this page is accurate much is not. Buell had a system that was light years ahead of anyone in either the motorcycle or automotive field. I hope someday they deploy something like it. It's a bit more complicated than it sounds as a result of things like dealer contracts. If you are inclined to see just how difficult put yourself in the dealers shoes. | ||
| Odinbueller |
If it's any conciliation, we offer online sales for any published service manual up to 2009 (ChelleM hasn't had a chance to add 2010 part numbers yet). We offer 10% off all online sales; http://www.libertyharley.com/buell/parts/ We're also working on offering an ecommerce site to offer the entire Buell accessory catalog online. We'll post accordingly once we have the bugs worked out. Thanks for your support! Chris & the Liberty Buell Team | ||
| Slaughter |
I think it'd work if the DEALER posted an online parts book where you could order directly. We're trying to get something like that worked out through Antelope Valley here in an effort to expand some of their parts-and-accessories business AND their moto-parts. The manufacturer cannot undercut their dealers so prices would of necessity ALWAYS be higher if ordered directly from the manufacturer. It sure would be nice, just not really easy to work - but I own a parts book for each motorcycle that I own. Makes life so much easier to hit the parts counter with a list of part numbers and not a "you know, it's the dingus that threads onto the end of the doomaflotchie that connects the gizmo to the main thing" | ||
| Avc8130 |
I would imagine it is a PIA for the dealers. For my other bikes I walk into the dealer and know exactly the part number I want. I remember the old days when the internet didn't exist and we had to dig through the books at the dealership. Is Buell good with their part number history? If I BUY the parts manual, and a part number is superseded, will this become apparent when I attempt to order an old part number? That is one of the nice advantages of the online fiche, it is easier to keep everyone on the same page. ac | ||
| Avc8130 |
What Slaughter described is pretty much how the Japanese world works. Plenty of dealers have the parts manuals online. You can either order directly from them or take the part numbers to the local dealers and purchase from the part numbers directly. Check out Ron Ayers if you want to see what I mean. They even have reverse lookup so you can see what other bikes a certain part will fit. Works excellent when you are trying to cross-reference. ac | ||
| Froggy |
Avc, I have been studying part manuals over the last year and have noticed trends with how part numbers evolve. Usually when a part number is superseded or revised, they just throw an A on the end. Occasionally the change the second character from a 0 to a 1, not sure why yet. Buell's part numbering system is excellent, and in fact if you posted a part number, I could probably tell you what it is and what it fits without looking it up. | ||
| Slaughter |
I go to the counter with my 2003 XB book and they tell me that the part is superseded. Seems that Buell keeps their records up to date. Hasn't been a problem. I've had that happen with gaskets, some other minor stuff. | ||
| Avc8130 |
OK, excellent. I will give in and give them the $26 for the printed manual then. At least then I will have a starting number to talk to the dealer with. ac | ||
| Zac4mac |
Hate to drop more bad news Anthony, but 26 bucks is below dealer cost for the parts books. When I got Loretta, I also bought the full suite of Manuals - Parts, Electrical and Service. Seemed expensive until you consider our Shop-rate is 85 bucks an hour. They have paid for themselves many times over. H-D and Buell are in process of revamping their numbering systems. Or, so I'm told at work. I wish they would adopt a system like the military used, at least the way it was when I was in, 20+ years ago. I could look at a number and tell what it was, and I was just an Electronics Tech, not a Storekeeper. Z | ||
| Avc8130 |
Then maybe I should snag that one off Ebay! ac | ||
| Slaughter |
On parts manuals for the older bikes, sometimes you CAN do better on ebay and don't worry about superseded p/ns They still fly. | ||
| Court |
The Buell manuals, at $50 or whatever they are, are a steal and likely the best of all the manufactures. | ||
| 1324 |
I second this ^^^. My Suzuki manual for my old SV650 pales in comparison. | ||
| Avc8130 |
The service manual is awesome. It truly is step by step and very well written. I just wish I could use it to work on the bike...then hit up the internet and find part numbers for the parts I need. I just ordered the electrical diagnostics manual. Never seen one of these separate for a bike. I am curious to see what is in it. ac | ||
| Court |
You will find, in terms of the 1125, that the:
Are complementary (not "complimentary  )and well worth the investment. The Electrical Diagnostics, if I recall, is the largest of them and is quite amazing. I have every Buell manual every published and if you need something while waiting on yours let me know. | ||
| Avc8130 |
Parts manual is on order also. An exploded view really clarifies what the service manual shows. I am sure the electrical diagnostics manual will make wonderful bathroom material...hope I never need it on the bike actually! ac | ||
| Chadhargis |
I'll be picking up a Service Manual for sure. When it comes valve adjustment time, I might give it a go since I don't have to remove cams thanks to the finger followers. | ||
| Avc8130 |
Removing cams isn't that bad anyways. I have done numerous valve adjustments on SV650's. They are shim/bucket style. Sure, it is a bit more work, but really not that difficult. I even did them with the "pales in comparison" manual Suzuki provided too! ac |
