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Geforce
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 12:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, so I came out this morning dressed and ready to head on post for duty... I back the 1125r out of the garage and look down... oh snap I left my damned key on LAST NIGHT! Yep, the battery is dead. I need to go out and buy a charger, does anyone have any pointers on specific chargers I might want to pick up? When I say it's dead... it's 00 on the voltmeter.

I fished through the owner's manual and there's a section about the battery and charging it, but it mainly lists the steps to connect, disconnect and then charging tables. I just don't want to haul off an buy a nice charger and it not be enough or two much for the battery.

Thanks for your time! ***Hopefully I don't ruin the battery in this process by killing it.***

(Message edited by geforce on August 08, 2009)
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Ron_luning
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 01:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buy a Deltran Battery Tender.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 01:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Totally dead is bad for a m/c lead-acid battery, they are shallow-cycle.

You need a charger that will push an Amp or 2.
Once it's charged, put it on a tender when possible to keep it equalized.

A totally dead battery is too much energy for a Tender IMO.

These batteries seem pretty hardy for their size, yours should be recoverable.

Z
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

seriously 0V?

if that's the case i wouldn't hold my breath on a recovery and if you did i likely won't last much longer.

i have a charger i picked up that will push as much as 10A but will drop to a float once the battery is charged up. cost me about 65 at the local auto parts store
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 02:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a complete dead battery long ago that I charged on a Battery Tender. Took like 2.5 days IIRC, but it worked.
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Pizzaboy
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 04:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

battery tenders are different than battery chargers.

you'll be waiting a longgggg time to get your 100% dead battery to charge if you just plug in your tender (3 days at LEAST)

tenders keep your battery happy in the 80-99% charge range during periods where the battery is not seeing daily or weekly natural charge cycles off of the vehicle's charging system

your best bet is simply to hook up your car battery charger to your bike over night. all modern battery chargers have the power to do some serious charging in a short time, yet will not over charge your battery.

your not endangering your battery or bike by putting on a hi-power charger on it overnight.
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Pizzaboy
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 04:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Totally dead is bad for a m/c lead-acid battery, they are shallow-cycle


COMPLETELY draining any 'starting' type battery is relatively detrimental to its longevity. wet and lead type batteries just will not take that abuse more than once or twice before they check out for good.

i just toasted 2 starting batteries in my dodge ram diesel pickup from when it was at the dealership getting an engine replacement 2 months ago. the batteries didnt see over 2 volts for over 6 weeks!! now i need to jump start my truck if its been sitting for more than 48 hours without running, as i save up for 2 very large batteries!

dry cell batteries, marine and deep cycle batteries are more resistant to damage caused by sucking 100% juice from them and recharging.
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Geforce
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 08:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I knew the battery tender I have wouldn't be able to charge it. But, I went ahead an plugged it in, in the hopes getting it some juice would be better and it sitting completely discharged. The reason I asked about the charger itself is because I wasn't sure if these batteries had any special Buell tinkering, like an interactive charge cell, or energy in cell technology that I wasn't aware of.


Sweet deal then, off to the auto parts store to get a decent charger, the tenders I have are HD wall units and they are SWEET, I try to plug my Buell's in every night, and they keep them fresh all winter between nice days and for a year it has worked very well.

Thanks for all the replies gents, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something and you all have confirmed my suspicions.
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Kttemplar
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had my battery go dead once and the tender I got from the HD dealer took forever to charge it back up. I went out and got a Power Tender Plus from deltran, which is waterproof and charges at 5 amps until it tends.


http://batterytender.com/product_info.php?products_id=7&osCsid=cfa39a3b7df39506a7bdfd69577537c1


Mike

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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got an old 2/10/Engine Start unit that I've had for years...

If you need it RIGHT NOW, it'll crack just about anything but a diesel off and get it running, or if you want a slow charge leave a d-e-d dead battery on it overnight. Just remember to take it off the next morning...

DAMHIK.

R
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Geforce
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I went out and bought a high speed looking digital one. Gives you the current voltage as it's charging, has different cycles etc. 2-6-12 amp charger.

One thing I cannot ascertain from the owners manual is what TYPE of battery these are. IE: Standard, Gel, AGM, etc.

I guess I need to stop playing with Army batteries and research these some more. lol

It's charging away right now though, I removed all connections from the terminals and secured them from interfering. I left it in the bike though, didn't want to take it out.
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Chevycummins
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Geforce,sounds like you bought the right charger if its charging. Some of the high frequency digital ones have reverse polarity protection witch means it needs to see a few volts before it will charge. These will not charge a completely dead battery. You would have to start the charge on an old school one then switch to the digital one. I think the battery is the AGM (absorbed glass mat) battery.
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Geforce
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The read out on the display says 11.2 already, I have been watching it for the last hour or so and it's slowly climbed the number scale, my hope is that it charges well, and I plan to use the tender to keep it in good shape every night like I have been doing. Looks good so far. The setting is on Standard, AGM is an option, should I switch it to AGM?
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Zac4mac
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not positive about this one, but all the batteries we have at the dealership are HD AGM batteries.

Mike - for chargers that "look" for a nominal voltage, just bump the charger with a 9 volt battery once hooked up.

Congrats on not having a toxic boat anchor yet.

Z
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Pariah
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have resurrected a dead battery on my 1125R twice now. For that I use this awesome charger--- it FIGURES OUT what battery you have and sets itself automatically:



From Griot's Garage:
http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/car+maintenanc e/battery+care/microprocessor+controlled+battery+c harger+ii.do?search=basic&keyword=battery&sortby=n ewArrivals&page=1

For tendering purposes, I use Griot's super-intelligent battery manager, also mostly automatic (although the charger should work for this as well, but is a bit less convenient):



link: http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/battery+manage r+iii+accessory+cable.do?search=basic&keyword=batt ery&sortby=newArrivals&page=1

MH

(Message edited by pariah on August 08, 2009)
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