| Author | Message | ||
     Imshaun |
I was given the opportunity to race a zx10 the other day. That thing was impressive! We rolled on at around 40mph... side by side until around 80, then he departed ahead slowly. I wasn't surprised, but still wonder how the race would have gone from a stop. Then again, I don't race very often. - Shaun - | ||
| Madav8tr |
"then he departed ahead slowly" He musta been holding back because my old ZX10R would have walked away from my 1125R easily. Standing start the 10R would still destroy the 1125R. It's expected though because weights are similar but he has 40 or so hp on you. | ||
| Imshaun |
I negated to mention that the rider of the zx10r was very large. A chubby boy he was. | ||
| Carbonbigfoot |
Try to catch one from a 10-15 mph roll on. And watch them try to figure out what the hell is going on when you pull away up to about 100... Really leaves them scratching their head... Torque! R | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Standing start the 10R would still destroy the 1125R With expert riders, the ZX-10 probably has at most a couple tenths of a second on the 1125R from 0-60mph. Put those two bikes in the average riders' hands and my bet is the the 1125r would very much hold its own or even come out on top as it's easy to launch hard and controllably--plus the V-Twin grunt. Either way, I wouldn't call that "destroying." | ||
| Dogbone |
Haven't been around much, but figured I'd weigh in here. I love the 1125R and after a few test rides have decided its one of the most enjoyable road bikes out there. But, if you'd missed the article, the ZX10R won the shootout held between all the big Japanese bikes and the Duc 1098 & R and the MV Augusta 1078. It was faster to 180mph than any bike included. The only bike nipping at its heels was the 1078. While all this is really just splitting hairs, I wouldn't be surprised in the least for anyone to be left behind by a ZX10 (given equal ability). That said, I don't hear anyone ranting and raving about how enjoyable the ZX10R is to ride, on the street or track, so IMHO that pretty much says everything.... | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I did read that article. Interesting shootout to say the least. Let's clarify now--are we talking a 0-60 or 60-180? The 1125r would not get "destroyed" by any production bike until speeds are in WELL triple digits. "Destroyed" of course is subjective--but the published 0-60 times are not. (Message edited by fresnobuell on April 29, 2009) | ||
| Gsxrkiller |
i ride with my brother every nice weekend he has a gsxr 1000 2008.we race each other every time we are out, from a rolling start henever pulls away from the r until we reach 130-140mph.i would race azx-10 in the quarter anytime.torque gets you there,hp keeps you there. | ||
| Madav8tr |
I have owned both and currently own the 1125 and the 10R will destroy an 1125R. Like I said before, a 40hp difference in power is a bit much to over come. Performance numbers indicate that a stock 2006 ZX10R will do the 1/4 in 9.76 @145 mph. HP is 166 with 81ft lbs of torque. 1125R will do the 1/4 in 10.45 @133 mph. HP differences show more than 40hp disparity toward the ZX10R. Not arguing that the 1125R isn't a great bike but a ZX10R will destroy it, plain and simple. You can argue that the 1125R is easier to launch and has "v twin" grunt but the fact is the 10R is faster. | ||
| Georgehitch17 |
i want to see a 1125r tuned by xb9 against one of those maybe then it would give it a run for its money. hp and torque numbers arent everything if you compared to 10R to the 1125R im sure our torque looks much better. | ||
| Dave_bogue |
It's fairly simple: the Ten makes about 155 rear wheel horsepower and weighs slightly more than the 1125. A stock Ten has high gearing: a 100 mph first gear. (And,if you don't like the gearing, it's easily adjusted with sprocket changes) The Ten's power is restricted in the first four gears until 6000 RPM. The easy low cost solution is a TRE (Timing Retard Eliminator). Once unrestricted, the ZX-10 pulls just like a V-twin sportbike at low RPMS and the midrange is ferocious. In a straight line, the 1125 will not be competitive with a ZX-10R. These are two different classes of motorcycles. Dave Bradenton FL | ||
| Xl1200r |
I rode a ZX-10 (not able to compare it to the 1125, it would be a couple more months before I rode one), and came away unimpresses with the chassis (I had my XB12R at the time), but was very impressed with the power. Don't know what they'd do head to head, but the ZX-10 did not display any of the typical IL4 qualities people claim (waiting for power, no guts under 8k rpms, etc). | ||
| Brapbrapbrap |
Dave Bougue +1 Lets keep it real. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I am not saying that the ZX-10 isn't faster in a straight line. That point is not debatable. One person is claiming the ZX-10 with "destroy" the 1125r. If you think that a tenth of a second from 0-60 and .5 a second in the 1/4 mile is being destroyed, well I guess you are right. I would like to see the 0-100 numbers on both of the bikes. I bet they are pretty close. | ||
| Chadhargis |
I say...."Who cares?" Anyone can ride fast in a straight line. Let two "average" riders loose in the extreme twisties and see who can make it to the end of the road fastest. Twins are inherently easier to ride with a more friendly power band. They don't have the tendency to hit their power peak suddenly causing wheel spin and highsides. The way I look at bikes isn't the way a professional ride on a closed course looks at a bike. I think about how fast *I* can ride the bike, and I'm willing to bet I'd be faster on the 1125 than I would be on a ZX-10. | ||
| Wfo_rey |
Last mouth I saw some very fast bikes and a stock 08 zx10 no power adder run the mile in 181,mph.My 08 1125r power by xb9 tuner bike ran a 166.173.And in oct it's going to be better ,thanks dave-xb9 | ||
| Dogbone |
Fresno is really correct. Destroy is a terrible adjective to use because it implies something to the magnitude of a Corvette vs a Cobalt. Unfortunately we've all become a bit jaded because in the Japanese arena, things are now separated by hundreths of a second, so tenths now seem like a large gap. Half a second feels like an eternity. In current terms an 1125R does get "destroyed" by the ZX10R in a straight line (all other things being equal). But what does that really mean? A couple bike lengths at best over a 1/4 mile. Does it make a difference to you? Dunno, that's a personal thing. Right now I ride a K5 GSXR1000, and if I could walk away without losing money, I'd be on an 1125R without a second thought. | ||
| Madav8tr |
"If you think that a tenth of a second from 0-60 and .5 a second in the 1/4 mile is being destroyed, well I guess you are right." It's more like 3/4 of a second in the 1/4 and to anyone that knows drag racing, that's "destroyed". Listen, I am not knocking the 1125R at all but understand I have logged 20K miles and roadraced a ZX10R. There is no comparison. | ||
| Socoken |
A half second at 140mph is over 100 feet. That may or may not be "destroyed" but its a butt kickin'. | ||
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| Ft_bstrd |
Any 'tard can twist. I've passed several 'Busas waddling through Deal's Gap on the Uly. I'm sure that I wouldn't be an after thought upon roll on for the 'Busa. Chad and I have ridden a couple of times with a guy on a GSXR1k. He does long straight line blasts on it. He can't ride corners worth a crap. Any speed above what I can use on a twisty road is just wasted capacity. It's like going to Publix in a Hummer with a lift kit. Wasted capacity. | ||
| Chadhargis |
I ran into a guy with a turbo GSX-R1000 sporting a 8" extended swingarm. I asked him, "How does it handle?". His response was, "It's fast!". Humm.....I think I know what Fatty was talking about when he says, "Any 'tard can twist." | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Remember the guy we rode with who was all wigged out at every stop. Drewpy's buddy. Tard + Twist. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I say...."Who cares?" Correct. Riding fast in a straight line doesn't do anything for me (except get speeding tickets.) One of the reasons I am looking at the CR gearing swap. I'm out! | ||
| Xbswede |
"I say...."Who cares?" The sad thing is many do and the perception is that Buell = Slow. This is one of the reasons its hard to get riders to switch to Buell. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
There are two trade offs for the Buell=Slow. The rider who finds Buell is probably not Ricky Racer 19 year old buying their first bike. The person who buys a Buell is probably has owned the "fast" bike and is now looking for the "best" bike. This means the average Buell buyer is a little older and usually earn a little higher income. Second, since the average "fast" bike rider provides a short life span for their steed. This means that there are a plethora of cheap track bikes and and endless supply of salvage parts from the collision from all that spec sheet top end speed. It's just a little tricky scraping the blood and guts out of the inside of the parts. | ||
| Osup |
"here are two trade offs for the Buell=Slow. The rider who finds Buell is probably not Ricky Racer 19 year old buying their first bike. The person who buys a Buell is probably has owned the "fast" bike and is now looking for the "best" bike. This means the average Buell buyer is a little older and usually earn a little higher income." Well put Ft_bstrd. | ||
| Naiguy |
the bigggest of bikes have fallen to the CR gearing.  | ||
| Georgehitch17 |
"The rider who finds Buell is probably not Ricky Racer 19 year old buying their first bike. The person who buys a Buell is probably has owned the "fast" bike and is now looking for the "best" bike. This means the average Buell buyer is a little older and usually earn a little higher income" Hey i was only 18 when i got my 1125R |
