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Kttemplar
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For those of you that have DOD decals; where did you put them? I am trying to get some ideas for where to put them. There does not seem to be much area to place them that does not look bad. Thanks.

Mike
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Ponti1
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 07:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't have one, but would put it right dead center at the bottom of the windscreen if I still had the need for one.
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Bigschwerm
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 08:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

on the left side frame/fuel tank yucked in behind the windscreen....gate guards can see it pretty well from where they stand and it is still kind of hid.
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I stuck them to a small license plate holder looking thing I made and bolted it on to the fork. I didn't want to stick them to any part of the bike itself.
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Geforce
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I put mine on the left side of the "fuel tank/frame" it is turn vertical and they blue berries haven't complained once. I thought about the forks, windscreen etc, but it just takes away from the bike. I think Big and I had the same idea. To guide you in...

sit on the bike with your left hand on the fuel cap, slide it forward until you hit the frame and now follow the edge to the left. If you look in this area you can see a BMC sticker and mine is dress right dress lined up vertical next to it. So when I come into the gate and shut her down *D&D* I turn the handlebars to the right and the blue berries see it plain as day. Course then they start asking me what kind of bike it is, how fast it is, what type of motor, etc. Then I realize I will be late to formation and inform them that I need to get moving... lol Good luck with it!
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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just put mine vertical on the upper fork leg - toward the bottom of the tube. SOmetimes when a new rent-a-cop was at the gate and looked puzzled, I'd just point to it. Rarely would have to stop.

Just make sure all sides of the stickers are visible.
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Kttemplar
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks everyone, for all of the good ideas! I think I will go with the left side of the frame. I thought about that, but wanted to get some input from people that have had them on the bike and their experiences with the gate guys. Again, thanks for all of the input!

Mike
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Pepperk496
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

8/20/2007 - WASHINGTON (AFPN) -- Air Force officials are working with other services to allow its people to enter installations without requiring them to display a base decal on their vehicles.

Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. T. Michael Moseley recently ended use of the sticker, officially called a DD Form 2220, on Air Force installations due to cost, a lack of utility and long-term threats facing bases.

The decal was developed in the 1970s as part of a vehicle registration and traffic management system, not to bolster security, said Col. William Sellers, the Air Force chief of force protection and operations for security forces.

"There was a clear and definable need for this system (then)," he said. "A nationwide vehicle registration database did not exist, insurance was not required by all states and a process was needed to expedite vehicle entry onto installations."

Air Force officials began questioning the value of the vehicle registration system in 2005 due to security concerns.

Many people incorrectly viewed the decal as being designed to bolster security, Colonel Sellers said. In actuality, the decal lessens it by identifying vehicles of Airmen and civilian workers as potential terror targets and may lure gate guards into complacency.

Laws now require motorists to have a legal driver's license issued by a state, proof of vehicle ownership/state registration, evidence of insurance, and safety and emissions inspections. A national vehicle registration system is used by all civilian and military police departments in the country.

"We've been putting our own personnel through a process that simply duplicates state and federal mandatory requirements," Colonel Sellers said.

If a vehicle from a Navy base is parked illegally on an Army installation, the military police can't use its DD Form 2220 to track the owner because the two services don't share vehicle databases. Instead, the police will use the license plate number or vehicle identification number to obtain information via two national systems that provide comprehensive driver, vehicle data and access to law enforcement agency information, the colonel said.

Security forces and gate guards now check the ID of each person entering an Air Force installation, Colonel Sellers said. This provides better security than a base decal ever did because:

-- The vehicle displaying it could have been sold with the decal on it.
-- Its owner may have left the service and not removed the decal.
-- The number on the decal could be duplicated.
-- The decal could be counterfeited.
-- The decal may have been removed from another vehicle.
-- The vehicle may have been stolen.

Whiteman Air Force Base, Mo., hasn't seen an increase in gate traffic since it stopped issuing base decals six months ago, said Master Sgt. James Osban, the NCO in charge of the 509th Security Forces Squadron Police Services.

"We're identifying the people coming on base and not the vehicle," he said. "We've done a 100 percent ID check for years."

Air Force officials have asked other services to allow entry of its people to their installations by honoring their common access cards, appropriate identification or even by issuing them a DD Form 2220, which would enter them in another branch's database. In many cases, Air Force people visit other installations to shop.

"That translates into dollars for their Soldiers, Sailors and Marines," Colonel Sellers said. "Commanders want Air Force personnel on their bases."

Some within the Defense Department feel the registration system still has utility, regardless of inherent weaknesses, Colonel Sellers said. Installation commanders worried about the time it takes to access bases "need to face today's security challenges."

"Using it puts the military in serious danger of losing credibility with its own personnel and the general public," Colonel Sellers said. "The threat is here, it's real and we must continuously improve our processes and procedures."

The military branches have spent millions on new entry points, but have failed to review the process of how they allow entry onto an installation, Colonel Sellers said.

"The strength of a redesigned gate is defeated if the process to enter is flawed," he said. "Our first line of defense becomes irrelevant. The priority is not expediting entry, but knowing who is entering."






Jeez guys, get with the times here!

I bet the Air Force paid 5 or 6 officers to study the DD 2220 system for a year or so. It probably took them that long to decide they didnt want them.
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Kttemplar
Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 01:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is really great news. Unfortunately, the bases I have to frequent are not Air Force Bases. Considering the past performance of the military, this proposition will take at least 10 years to become general practice throughout DOD. Additionally, that is only provided it becomes a DOD-wide practice. That may take 10 years to decide too. I have every confidence that if the DOD decals go away that some new system, which is equally time consuming and a general pain in the butt, while being completely unnecessary will be implemented. Just my thoughts, but thanks for the info, Pepperk.

Mike
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Thereconscout
Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If You go for the Left side of the Frame, you might try sticking it on a Magnet so U can take it off when ever you want. It works pretty well when I need to wash the bike and keep it from Peeling when the sun/ dirt hits.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How do you get a magnet to stick to aluminum?
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Painkiller
Posted on Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Top left corner above the 1125R sticker.


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Thereconscout
Posted on Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good point Zac, I used that on the tank of my last Yamaha, I have my Decal on the left fork on this bike
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Budgolf
Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just inside the fairing on the left side. Sitting on the bike you look straight down at it.
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