| Author | Message | ||
     Slaughter |
Higbee is in Superbike - finished down a bunch but you'll be reading about him pulling the bike together out of a bunch of boxes of miscellaneous parts and a crate engine (stock, NOT some "Factory Race Engine") just a few days before the races. | ||
| X1whitie |
Eric should be proud. From the guys that prepared them to the rides even the zip tye guy who was doing the best he could under mountains of pressure. As for what could of been done, there is a product out called BearBond. It comes in 12x24 inch sheets, it is super sticky and will stick to anything even if it is oil soaked. They could of placed a piece from the fairing to the tank in one shot. Sort of what Danny was trying to do with the duck tape. As for funding, Court what can we do ? Do you need volunteer help at the track to take some of the load off the paid guys. I'm sure there is a few people near each tack that would love to help. What about cash, who do we e-mail and bug at Harly to rethink there race funding. Help us to help you, use us like the Buell whores that we are ! | ||
| Carbonbigfoot |
+1 X1. Court, can you provide any suggestions? I like the idea of thanking Geico, also using their services, and is there anyone at HD that could use a letter or e-mail? R | ||
| Timi |
Oooh slaughter. VERY interesting! Crate motor? Wow! Now this takes a whole new angle. "factory" vs stock? Go Buell! Er. Rotax. Even with ductape and all. 13th aint bad from 2 laps down. Rock on Buell. Still hate asscar! How about NHRA Prostock bike? Andrew Heinze anyone? Yea this ia going to be one hell of a year for Buell, I can feel it now! Wow!!!! | ||
| Bob_thompson |
One word guys for the trouble Danny had with the fairing I get from my son who works in aircraft maintenance "redundancy". Check everything at least three times and have backups for backups for backups. It does work and if practiced all the time leaves very little room for error. When an aircraft has a problem its usually catastrophic. Still with what happened a great outcome. Its past now, they'll learn and get better. | ||
| Timi |
X1, what a change of heart. Patting the ducyape guy on the back. Nice. U r forgiven by me dude. Whew the excitement is awesome! What cha think? Gona be a great year or what? Be safe. | ||
| Court |
The name is . . . ERIK BUELL, not Erick, Eric, or Bob. . . . gosh and we're the same folks wondering why the Buell name is not better known.  >>>>just a few days before the races. . . . . "the little Buell that could and was basically built in a hotel parking lot". I'm going to try to arrange an interview with Shawn and Dave Gess (a great race writer) . . . this story MUST be told to the Buell faithful. >>>>BearBond. It comes in 12x24 inch sheets, it is super sticky and will stick to anything even if it is oil soaked I think it'a lack of Oxygen be buried here in the Basement of Buell Hall (no kidding, look it up) but I am getting an ugly mental picture of Eslick zooming back into the fray with two pit workers stuck to the bike! >>>>As for funding, Court what can we do ? Easy. These is NOTHING you can do that is more powerful than. . . .
I'm sending mine on Monday. Letters may go to: Jon Flickinger, President Buell Motorcycle Company 2719 Buell Drive East Troy, WI 53120 Erik Buell, Chairman Buell Motorcycle Company 2719 Buell Drive East Troy, WI 53120 Buell Racers C/O Mr. Steven Anderson 2719 Buell Drive East Troy, WI 53120 | ||
| Doughnut |
Court, just wondering, What are the four steps? | ||
| Bob_thompson |
One word guys for the trouble Danny had with the fairing I get from my son who works in aircraft maintenance "redundancy". Check everything at least three times and have backups for backups for backups. It does work and if practiced all the time leaves very little room for error. When an aircraft has a problem its usually catastrophic. Still with what happened a great outcome. Its past now, they'll learn and get better. | ||
| Court |
>>>>What are the four steps? Think of them as:
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| Bob_thompson |
Double post guys, sorry. | ||
| X1whitie |
Ops on the name, I have a few friend that all spell it different and on top of that I suck at spelling. Timi I truly feel for the mechanics, being a race mechanic my self and one that has made many mistakes I know they have reviewed the race in there minds several times wondering how they could do better. The pressure of racing is immense compounded by there own internal pressure to preform. You can't win them all, but u can learn something from them all ! | ||
| Timi |
Hey I'm proud of Buell. My spelling is much to be desired, but I will accept the buggle of my crackberry and AGAIN I appoligze for the misspelling of Erik,s name. Sorry sir! Man what a year this is going to be. Just wait till the "blueprinted" motor makes its run this season!! Again to ALL Buellers out there, this aint NASA-car, its AMA and its "rule" change of classes is a good one. By the way, dissing the 1125, what did those overpriced Duc's do? Oh how bout Aprilia, Rotax powered also. Kudos Buell. You make me proud! To all those (6) racers, THANK YOU!! | ||
| Two_buells |
Now everyone is speculating that the bolt holding the pod came loose. Maybe the plastic/carbon fiber cracked around the bolt holding the pod on. It seems to be well hiding and maybe it was over looked. Can you imagine the stress these bikes take being pegged (going top speed) at that track? This pod/fairing was not a stock piece. On our stock bikes there is just the pod. This race bike had a lower fairing attached to the pod and might have been using the same mounting point as the stock bike. I trust there will be a redesign. Anyway this next part was posted on another thread and is worth repeating: This bike and rider were amazing! After the pit stop to fix the bodywork, Eslick was in 68th place. I was watching live timing on line and it said he was 2 laps down. Granted there was a red flag stop and two safety cars bunching up the pack. Eslick’s times were faster than the leaders as he worked his way up to 13th position. I love my 1125R! Congrads to all the Buell Racers! (Message edited by Two_Buells on March 07, 2009) | ||
| Jotrevza |
Hey guys, I went out and specifically ordered the additional Dish package with the Speed Channel just for this event! It was pretty exciting for me since I've never really watched this bike do battle yet. It was probably NO surprise to many of you though. My wife had to peel me off the ceiling last night when Danny Eslick pulled into the pit with the right side of the bike hanging half off. I think I learned new words from myself??? I was taking it personally.  We were talking about it afterward and even with the MASSIVE setback, Danny did one hell of a job making his way back up there under the circumstances! Man, it was like I was standing right there in the pit feeling the pain as they applied the tape and zip ties...... At the end, I thought about those first nine laps and how he gave Bostrom & Hayes an awful lot to worry about!  What a beautiful thing!!! I guess it's a no-brainer for many of you who have known all along, but, for someone like me that's relatively new to the Buell name, it was pretty cool watching our bike dominate even for a short time during this race, and hopefully just a glimpse of what's to come....... Take care, Tracy | ||
| 4cammer |
Court, thanks for the addresses. | ||
| Rex |
Well, the whole thing was exciting. It was a Buell Show for the first few laps. I was surprised how long they stayed in the Buell pits watching them zip tie and tape the pods on.....that was a long time, while racing was going on. Then I was surprised they didn't go back and follow the Buell as it was coming back. The Buells sounded good, looked good, and ran fast. The announcers were saying how exciting it would be in town if Harley Davidson won the race tonight. A long race history at Daytona. The announcers were not quite ready for this race.... If they were running this Nascar style, the promoters might be pleased with themselves. Pace cars, yellow flags, crashes, restarts, pit scenes, etc. who knows.. Interesting to see how the season pans out at other tracks...REX | ||
| Ponti1 |
I can relate to those who were really into the race. As I told my wife...instead of watching at home or in the stands, I felt like I was a member of the team, but stuck sitting on the bench. Wish I could see the Superbike race to check out how Higbee looked on the track compared to all the 1000 IL4s and Ducs. | ||
| J2blue |
Can Badweb take up a collection to become a sponsor for Eslick, Higbee, et.al.? I'm pretty poor but would be willing to contribute $50 for the season. My money by itself wouldn't do much, but get 1,000 more poor guys like me to do the same and... | ||
| Diablo1 |
Again to ALL Buellers out there, this aint NASA-car, its AMA and its "rule" change of classes is a good one. By the way, dissing the 1125, what did those overpriced Duc's do? Oh how bout Aprilia, Rotax powered also. Kudos Buell. You make me proud! Over-priced Ducatis not allowed to race, because it's Nascrap. Ducati 848..allowed to race. Ducati 998..not allowed to race. Ducati 1098..not allowed to race. Buell 1125...allowed to race. DMG rules say Italian twins must be smaller than American twins.} | ||
| Davegess |
I would also suggest dropping note to Speed, Geico and the major sponsors of the broadcast. Tell how impressed you are by there support of MC racing and that you will consider them when you come to purchase stuff. Likely won't work on Honda but Valvoline was a sponsor. Any one have addresses for the PR departments? Dave | ||
| Court |
Dave: PM sent Court | ||
| Charlies_s1 |
All in all considering all we must all be proud of all involved in all of this! Racing at this level takes teamwork and the team will only get stronger as the year goes on, Look at the positives. 1 GREAT power 2 GREAT handling 3 GREAT riders 4 A GREAT following 5 Erik Buell Not in that order. Lets take a moment to write those letters and let the people that make this happen know we are pulling for them. Chuck | ||
| Charlies_s1 |
Could you also post those, Thanks. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The 998 isn't in production. The 1098R is putting down 180hp. The 848 is putting down 134hp. It's a lot closer match for the Buell and the IL4 600's. The R6 is putting down 123hp with the CBR600 putting down 118hp. It's not the displacement. It's what comes out the crankshaft that matters. My Uly should be able to kill them all. Hell, my neighbors Goldwing should be doing at least 300 MPH. | ||
| Diablo1 |
The 998 isn't in production. Neither is the 2008 Suzuki GSXR-1000 that Mladin used to win the 2009 Daytona Superbike race. The 1098R is putting down 180hp. The base model 2008 1098 put out the same HP as the Buell 1125, according to Buell. The 848 is putting down 134hp. It's a lot closer match for the Buell and the IL4 600's. It's obviously less power than the bigger Ducs, and less power than the Buell. It's not the displacement. It's what comes out the crankshaft that matters. Right, and the DMG rules saw to it that Buell had the most HP. So, don't all act so surprised that Buell looked to be one of the fastest bikes at Daytona.} | ||
| P_squared |
The base model 2008 1098 put out the same HP as the Buell 1125, according to Buell. Who's racing a STOCK 1098???? | ||
| Oddball |
'08 1098 160hp 90.4lb-ft '09 1198 170hp 97lb-ft '08 1098R 180hp 99.1lb-ft '09 848 134hp 70.8lb-ft (Message edited by Oddball on March 08, 2009) | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Neither is the 2008 Suzuki GSXR-1000 that Mladin used to win the 2009 Daytona Superbike race. Maybe, but they ARE producing a 1000cc bike of virtually the same configuration. Ducati isn't producing a single 998cc sport bike. They wouldn't be able to pass the homologation rules. The base model 2008 1098 put out the same HP as the Buell 1125, according to Buell. You can't get the base model 1098 only the 1098R. The 1098R ONLY comes with traction control which is prohibited under AMA SBK rules. I believe you CAN get the 1198 without traction control as well as the 848. Why they didn't run the 1198, I don't know. It's obviously less power than the bigger Ducs, and less power than the Buell. It isn't that much of a difference. The Buells are 146 vs. 134 for the 848. The Honda was only running 118hp. Even with the weight restrictions, the 848 was putting down more power to weight than the honda. Right, and the DMG rules saw to it that Buell had the most HP. So, don't all act so surprised that Buell looked to be one of the fastest bikes at Daytona. Right, but don't discount the effect of the additional 20lbs of bike weight required as well as potential differences in driveline lag as translated into HP at the wheel. Let's say that the R6 with tuning is putting down 120hp at the wheel and the Buell is putting down 135. The 20lb weight restriction would probably decrease that spread to 5-10 HP. The spread isn't as if there was a 1k vs. 600 spread going on. | ||
| Xb984r |
"Right, but don't discount the effect of the additional 20lbs of bike weight" Seems the AMA let Buell run at the same weight as the 600's.Buell was basically handed this race to them. |
