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Racerxusa
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 02:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi all, after I have been working with K&N with the airfilter donating bikes and info....they say a prototype is ready and i will give them a stock 08 1125R for dyno testing and then in my moded/tuned/Jardine piped bike soon......it wont be a race air filter like the hyabusa they have out..but nonetheless im looking forward to it soon and the results.....stay tuned buellers!

Rob Kreiner
Buell Specialist
SKip Fordyce HD/Buell
Riverside, CA
951 785-1508
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 03:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it wont be a race air filter like the hyabusa

What's the difference btw the race filter and the regular k&n filter.


Also, thanks for helping the process along. Lots of us are patiently waiting for the k&n for sure.}
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Racerxusa
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 03:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Email att; from K & N.......It will be a regular 4 Ply filter as most of them are. Not a race filter 2 Ply when I spoke with Lisa/R&D,etc. Nothing in the near future planned for a race filter. This should be a good high flow aftermarket filter as K&N is the most widely used quality paper filter out there!

RE: Hi Lisa, any work on new air filter for 2008/09 Buell 1125R/CR, progress.þ
From: Lisa Watson (lisaw@knfilters.com)
Sent: Tue 2/17/09 12:22 PM
To: 'Rob Kreiner' (supermotomx@hotmail.com)
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Hi Rob,



I will need a stock bike (no exhaust or programmer) at this time. From what Ive been told we are not going to do a race spec filter like we did for the Hayabusa.



Thank you for all of your help. I have not forgotten about the intake for your Mazda. Im trying to see if we can help you out with that since you have been supplying me with Buell information and bikes. Just waiting for the right time to ask. J



Thank you,



Lisa Watson

Sr. Product Coordinator, Accessories

lisaw@knfilters.com
Support Our Troops

(Message edited by racerxusa on February 18, 2009)
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Racerxusa
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From K & N.......It will be a regular 4 Ply filter as most of them are. Not a race filter 2 Ply when I spoke with Lisa/R&D,etc. Nothing in the near future planned for a race filter. This should be a good high flow aftermarket filter as K&N is the most widely used quality paper filter out there!

Rob Kreiner
Buell Specialist(still learning and doing)
Skip Fordyce HD/Buell
951 785-0100 ext 226

Why? Because I Love Buells/HD...the one and only True American Sport Bike!

(Message edited by racerxusa on February 18, 2009)
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Sportster_mann
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

looks like somebody has beaten K&N to it :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Filtro-aria-Sprint-Filter-Bu ell-1125R-SuperCompetition_W0QQitemZ220368453049QQ cmdZViewItemQQptZRicambi_e_Accessori_Moto?hash=ite m220368453049&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A 2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Not cheap though !
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll wait for the K&N. HOpefully soon.
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Ccryder
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Me too, I've already replaced my OEM at 12.5k miles.

Everything that is an IC engine has a K&N on it at my house.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine is due too, but i am holding on.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Email from Lisa on 2-25-09.

Hi Harlan,



We just had a bike in here for dyno testing. We are hoping to have the filter done towards the beginning of the second quarter.



If you log onto our website at http://www.knfilters.com/search/appsearch.aspx use the drop down menus and put in your bike. This phrase will be in red under the engine size.



No product shown for your vehicle? Recommend one & we will notify you when it is released.



Click on that and it will have you enter in your information. You will receive an instant email notification as soon as products are available for your bike.



Thank you for your interest in our products!
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Racerxusa
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well as you know Lisa is my go to girl at K&N...wow she got back to you b4 me Harlan(Fresno)?..im jealous...LOL...that was the bike i gave them for protoype filter. Hoping for mine soon...

Is that an Italian manufacturer(UK distributor) for that air filter? Yes it is...I know BMC out of Italy which is popular overseas and here said no plans for one this year.

I will await and see and have my bike dynoed with K&N airfilter, airbox lid off now, and Jardine Pro-tune 3 prototype tuning card, Jardine CF exhaust...I will keep you all posted.

Rob
Buell Specialist
Skip Fordyce HD/Buell
951 785-0100



(Message edited by racerxusa on February 26, 2009)
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am subscribing to the squeaky wheel getting the grease theory here.
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Ponti1
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I signed up months ago, again under different e-mail address a month ago, and tonight under a 3rd e-mail address.

Dammit, I'll buy 3 if that's what it takes!

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Racerxusa
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 02:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Italian air filter SF Sprint filter, its expensive..,92.00 Euros = 117.47 U.S. Dollars!!! WOW!... SHIPPING...30.00 Euros = 38.30 U.S. Dollars. Total Cost =155.77 +-!!!! I think normally K&N's are around 59.95 retail on the firebolts/Buell bikes. May be a bit more because of the big difference in radius bend/sealing. But should be a ton cheaper than the Italian filter....

I let Lisa at K&N know of this..by the pic they think it wont seal as good or the make the radius bend in the airbox(maybe speculation and probably not the right pic of air filter)... Thanks.

Rob
Buell Specialist

(Message edited by racerxusa on February 26, 2009)
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Racerxusa
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lisa from K&N would like to know by a poll if someone can do for me.

How many of you 1125R/CR owners ride street only?

Track/Race only?

Both street and track?

In a nutshell how many are going to buy or use the K&N 4 ply regular filter for replacement or service change.
Or would you like a 2 ply race filter like some models they make. Thanks for your input and help in feedback to K&N. For now it will be 4 ply but maybe with our feedback and numbers we can get both...

Rob
Buell Specialist

(Message edited by racerxusa on February 26, 2009)
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

aside from the 2 or 4 plys, what are the pro and cons? Is the 2-ply two thin to use for street riding?

I will probably buy the 4-ply unless the 2-ply filters as good as the 4-ply, which I doubt.
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Hellgate
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

^^^ Sounds like toilet tissue...sorry couldn't resist.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Let me rephrase then, will my fingers smell after using the 2-ply? If so, I'll go with the 4-ply. I like to be protected : )
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Bigschwerm
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would go with the 4 ply....
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Ccryder
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 08:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

4 ply 4 me.
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Daggar
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

4 ply.
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Slypiranna
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Which one will be backed up/supported and/or warrantied by BMC if an engine failure (do to foreign intake debris) were to be a possible cause related to the chosen filter media design?

Sorry if I sound a little confused but after 100's of K&N filter installs/applications, I've never heard of anyone (publicly questioning) being involved in developing said product other than said engineer's themselves.

No ILL at all meant by this post, only honest questions relevant to the thread.

FWIW, with the amount of debris that accumulates within the stock air box enclosure, I'd lean towards the obvious, whether racing or on the street.
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Ponti1
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heck, I didn't even know they made two different types (2 vs 4 ply). Do both offer improved flow over stock? How many ply is the stock filter comparable to?

I suppose I'd also like to know the answers to questions being asked (warrantied by BMC, pros/cons, etc.).

Until those answers are supplied, I'd guess a 4-ply would be my choice. Gotta play it safe.
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

4ply...AZ is to freakin dusty for a 2ply..

Jake
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Smoke
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 06:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Racerxusa
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok 4 Ply is what they are making/stock OEM that has better airflow..and I cannot foresee BMC warranty problems as HD use to use K&N OEM airfilters(some models still do) and are offered in screamin eagle/aftermarket catalogs and K&N for Buell/aftermarket in shops. Most get a K&N for there Buell XB Lightnings/Firebolts and other models all the time when new or over time.

Lisa is just trying to find out who races, street rides or does both to warrant a race model(maybe it would be a 2ply or more, i dont know)I believe.

Thanks for your guys suggestions and feedback as I know everyone besides myself are awaiting this filter.

By the way did anyone on badweb buy that expensive made in Italy SF Sprint Filter for the 1125R. I noticed someone in Germany bought one online with ebay. If anyone has one or is getting one let me know..K&N or me would like to find out and compare fit/flow...I would too.

Rob
Buell Specialist

(Message edited by racerxusa on February 27, 2009)
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Jerseyguy
Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 08:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rob, Thanks for working with K&N to get this product to the market ASAP. I'm planning to get one as soon as I can. I've got K&Ns on most of my toys and never had a problem. Sometimes the manufacturers need a little encouragement to get your need higher up on the development list. I had a bit of a similar circumstance with Corbin to get a seat for my XB12Ss back in '07.
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Racerxusa
Posted on Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Jerseyguy, Steve, appreciate it from another Jersey guy like myself. I'm on the left coast now and miss it back east.
I will keep everybody informed as much as I can when new products/testing/prototype are coming out for Buell! The more we call, email and ask for new product/improvement for the Buell line including contacting Buell/HD themselves it helps no matter how long it might take. I also contact HD/Buell in regard to issues such as quality, parts missing, improvements, on and on. If you have a concern about any Buell please let me know and I will forward by phone, email or your email to them also. The more the better.

Contact me by phone 951 785-0100 wed-sunday 10-7PM PST or by the email on my profile. Thanks again as I love these Bikes especially the 1125R/CR! 18 years in the making finally....Buy American...(as close as it gets)

Rob Kreiner
Buell Specialist
Skip Fordyce HD/Buell
7688 Indiana Ave
Riverside, CA 92504
951 785-0100 Ext 226
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Jjr1125
Posted on Monday, March 30, 2009 - 05:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rob,
Anything further on the K&N?
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Geforce
Posted on Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...crossing fingers...turning red from held breathe... soon?
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