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Jmr1283
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its a brief artical on making the frame. Its saying that buell, (which buell doesnt make the frame right? ) instead of uing sand it uses a water-based product that once the aluminum is poured they wash the form away with water which creates a stronger frame, by controling the temp. theres another thing about normal forms as they dry they can get pockets in the metal, and the buell form doesnt allow this to happen. i dont have the mag next to me its actually at another house or i would have type the stuff exactly.
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Jmr1283
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

oops just figured out that its popular science not mechanic. i have the mechanic at my house and my other is not. which is the science. my bad
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cool! I'll have to check that out...

R
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is a description of the Ablation Casting method. It is very legitimate. You can get much better properties in a casting than conventional die, sand or investment casting.

Interesting stuff.
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Jmr1283
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

neat stuff indeed. im lookin it up rate now.
i wonder why like edlebrock and others dont use it for their castings.
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Chameleon
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 04:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buell makes the frame/tank for the 1125R.
They import[ed?] the XB frames from Italy, IIRC.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 07:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buell doesn't "make" anything.

They assemble motorcycles from parts, all of which are made by subcontractors. Nothing the matter with that, it is a good idea in fact, for a smaller manufacturer, because they do no need to invest in production machinery for small runs.

The original XB frames were sourced from Verlicchi in Italy, and the swing arm was made by Brembo, if I recall correctly. Subsequently the swing arm was made in China.

The 1125 frames are sourced from a US foundry, I forget their name, sorry.
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Court
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>The 1125 frames are sourced from a US foundry, I forget their name, sorry.

: )

Uh . . . next time I see you (likely seeking Mac advice) remind me to tell you . . . . there are some fascinating twists and turns.
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, you are such a tease....

R
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Bobup
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court is not a tease....just giving you a short bit out of the next book.....LOL
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Spectrum
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's a previous thread on the subject...

http://badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290431/ 291913.html?1192267132
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Spectrum
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

By the way, here's the popular Science Article:

http://www.popsci.com/cars/article/2008-12/lighter -frame-stronger-bike
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1_mike
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

JMR -

Edelbrock doesn't "like" use this method because of the cost/part and the quantity of parts they put out.
Not required for their manifolds and heads. Too much time involved in the process

Mike
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buell makes the frame/tank for the 1125R.


Nope!
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Chameleon
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Meh, sorry for the misinformation... I guess I'm getting old and my memory is failing me.
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Sleeper_777
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But it's a good thing. Other example: Cisco Networking Gear is not made by Cisco, they have manufacturers over the globe to make and assemble their networking hardware, but the gear is rock solid (from all of it I've used).
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