| Author | Message | ||
     Jens |
Today at the Milan motorshow. Looks like the 1125CR Cupbikes for 2009... http://www.xborgforum.de/forum/viewtopic.php?p=200 523&sid=6b1d10770b79d88ba042bfe27728b1a5#200523 | ||
| Trojan |
Very nice. Particularly the revamped side scoops, which look 100% better and so much neater  I hope that the Italian race series actually runs next year, as their 1125R cup and XR1200 cup series stalled this year and never got off the ground for some unknown reason  The Spanish BBQ series http://bbqseries.com/index.php shows how popular it could have been, and hopefuly other European importers will see this and run similar one make series next year too. There has been a rumour that H-D UK will run an XR1200 and maybe even a 1125R race series in 2009, although this has of course been strenuously denied by them, and they have left it very late for inclusion into any of the major organisers race schedules for 2009 | ||
| Jerseyguy |
Jens - Can you post a picture of the new Ducati Streetfighter? | ||
| 01xjbuell |
Not to thread-jack, but is that a Termi exhaust? | ||
| Jens |
Jerseyguy, its already on the website: http://www.streetfighter.ducati.it/main_en.html 01xjbuell, yes its a Termignoni Jens | ||
| Redbuelljunkie |
The styling of that pod, along with the stripes, is finally a look I could live with. Someone should make an American flag pod sticker kit for the R/CR's. | ||
| Carbonbigfoot |
Yeahbut! Will those radiators work half as well without the aerodynamic feed of the scoops? I agree it looks sexy as hell, and I like the looks of the exhaust (but I bet it needs packing...) but it needs to work. Probably won't crash anywhere near as well either. R | ||
| Buellborn |
I wish they could get the pod size down or gone from the factory. That would move the sexy meter up quite a bit! | ||
| Xl1200r |
How the hell are those radiators supposed to even work like that? | ||
| Zac4mac |
Looks like they suck from the center above the wheel and exit on the rider's knee. | ||
| Cobra |
Interesting that they ditched the clubmans. | ||
| 01xjbuell |
So Jens, my question about the Termi is, will it be a production piece? how does it work? and how much? | ||
| Jens |
01xjbuell, yes the Termignoni will come. I havent seen dynoruns yet, but heared that they had some good people working on that project. Price will be there in the next days I think. Jens | ||
| Trojan |
How the hell are those radiators supposed to even work like that? probably the same way that Benelli and Honda managed it with twin side mounted radiators The concept may be unusual but it certainly isn't unique to Buell.  | ||
| Bearly |
I think they don't look as great as the originals do. They don't look like they would work as well. | ||
| Buellborn |
thats a good looking implementation of side radiators in that picture. They don't overwhelm the bike or detract from it. | ||
| Zac4mac |
HOW could you detract from that design cacophony? That Benelli is hideous. Looks like a UJM from a nightmare. | ||
| Jespo_m2 |
I really like the job they did with the rad scoops. Buell design team... take note. | ||
| Zac4mac |
What I DO find interesting on the Benelli is the headlight. Dead ringer for a CR. The Bennie is just way too buy of a design. Too many different angles and curves, looks parts-bin. | ||
| Buellborn |
I still wonder if this design opinions can be corralated to age. Older consumers prefer softer rounder shape of the Buell Pods, vs The younger more angular "busy" designs, the multi-tasking MTV short attention span aggressive mean angles. what is right? The Cadillac Eldorado approach, or the transformer look? To each his own. But if Buell offered one of each then they could sell to both markets. | ||
| Carbonbigfoot |
How well will it crash w/o trashing the radiators??? That's 50% of the design of the stock scoops! R | ||
| Freezerburn |
That Benelli was out 2 years before the CR was released. Zac - I would be surprised if you wouldn't sprout wood if you saw that Benelli in person. It is maybe a tad busy but it is artful. But you would like the cafe racer even more. I sat on one but the 23k price tag made it not a possibility. | ||
| M1combat |
I'm with BigFoot... I think I'd take the stockers in an eight hour race LONG before I'd take those. For the street too. | ||
| Xl1200r |
probably the same way that Benelli and Honda managed it with twin side mounted radiators I don't think so... Look at the Benelli - the air will flow over the bodywork and then is aerodynamically pushed towards the radiator by said body work. On these CRs, the bodywork is in the back, so by the time the air gets to it, it's already past the radiator. I can't see those modified scoops working any better than just sticking a radiator out in the wind sideways. I would be willing to bet that the fans would have to run a lot more with that design. | ||
| Trojan |
I don't think so... Look at the Benelli - the air will flow over the bodywork and then is aerodynamically pushed towards the radiator by said body work. I'm afraid you're mistaken there. On the Benelli the fans are mounted 'outboard' of the radiators, and work by 'pulling' air through them from the inside out. The side radiator covers are more for cosmetic reasons than for airflow, and the cooling doesn't suffer if you remove them. I know a guy who rode a Benelli TNT across the Sahara and West Africa (a whole story in itself!) with no cooling issues, even with the side panels removed. The design has been shown to work very well, with no reported issues on the TNT since its release (at least regarding cooling issues!). Likewise, the Honda SP-1 (RC51) manages to have twin side mounted radiators without the need for huge pods to direct air over them.  Although I am sure that the 1125 side pods are essential to the The way the Buell cooling system is set up, they should be seen as much as a styling exercise as an essential component to enable side mounted radiators to work properly, as other have shown that it is possible to achieve the same result without them. | ||
| Buellborn |
After seeing that picture It sure makes me hope and PRAY the Buell pods are reworked for 2010. The RC51 is a Sexy Bike, and so is the Benelli. That takes away any excuses for the Buell pods not scaled and shaped more into the bike. Unless its the Buell solid frame preventing a more integrated approach? | ||
| Zac4mac |
According to interviews with Erik, a big reason for the big pods was to be cheap protection for the rest of the bike in a crash. Right now, I could use some hot air coming out of the pods, but come Summer, I appreciate the design as it is. Z | ||
| Bearly |
I wouldn't want my bike to have the fans hanging out in the open that's for sure, or going through the radiator when I drop the bike. I guess some would design a bike for the way it looks, over the way it works. Some manufactures weight a lot towards aerodynamics, some towards looking edgy. Some need larger radiators to do the same job. And no offense to anyone, but unless we are all looking at the dynamic flow data, all we can give, is our opinion on how we like the looks of one bike over another. I will say this, I got smacked down hard a couple of months ago by another bike (who doesn't have the effective brakes the the 1125R does). My bike was knocked off it's wheels so hard that the first thing to hit the ground was the front fairing and the radiator cover (along with my head and left shoulder). The radiator was fine and I drove it home. The cover cost $59.00 US. It's cool to see show bikes in red white and blue however. (Message edited by bearly on November 06, 2008) | ||
| Pikkumyy |
Hello! i'm looking for the original radiator covers, right and left, for my 1125R, the front air intake part and the side part. I modified the bike, and now that it's ready, I'd like to get spares. If anyone has those covers left in the garage shelf and won't need them, let me know! Thank You! Anzza   |
