|Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 08:59 am: ||
Like many of you I too have been pondering whether or not to put on an aftermarket exhaust. Thanks for all the user pics they sure do help in the "making up the mind" department. But a thought occurred to me while looking at the D&D on Krassh' ride. Great mods BTW. This isn't a slam on his ride, but more of a overall thought. He just took some great pics that may or may not illustrate my concern.
It appears the placement of the stock exhaust makes both it and the engine "safe" in the event of a fall. The pods and the swing arm take the brunt of the damage. Include some swing arm sliders and you have effectively eliminated the damage to that part of the bike.
Now, add an aftermarket exhaust such as D&D or Jardine. It appears to me that during a crash you will end up pinching the exhaust between the pavement and the swing arm. Thus destroying the exhaust(big deal) and putting one heck of a booger on the swing arm(effectively rendering the sliders useless.) But more importantly what kind of stresses are incurred on the motor, since the exhaust is now holding the weight of the bike to the ground? Will the exhaust flanges get tweaked? Do the motor mounts explode? Are the headers now "tuned" to the negative do to bends?
You think the Buell guys had some of this in mind when during the design phase? Possibly. Now I now I have been harsh on Drummers as the be all end all solution, but in this train of thought they might be the only viable solution for an exhaust.
So does any of that make sense or do I need to get back on the crack pipe?
Again, just my .02 cents, and as usual refunds are available by mail.
|Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 09:10 am: ||
Definitely. Back on the crack pipe. It's the only pipe that makes sense...
|Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 09:11 am: ||
First you are right, mass will protect mass, but Thats old man reasoning. doom and gloom.
1. Your not supposed to crash.
2. It similar to driving an SUV (it's safer) mentality.
3. Enjoyment of your bike is paramount. I never understood people put runners down on their carpet and use seat covers. Life is short enjoy your stuff and don't save it for someone else who buys it for pennies on the dollar after you are dead and it's in perfect condition.
|Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 09:12 am: ||
GET OUT OF MY YARD!
|Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 09:41 am: ||
We just have to remember to crash on the otherside of the bike, haha.
I've considered all of that, but I can't stand the sound of the bike and will have a jardine on by friday.
|Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 09:56 am: ||
Took me a long time to get used to the sound.
Been on Harleys and British twins for 30+ years.
I did the same to Loretta's muffler as I always do... opened up the OEM can.
I've got enough "thump" now and I have the "compliance badge" that is welded on the stocker.
I could be swayed tho, waiting to see what Kevin puts out.
Nice ride Krassh!
|Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 11:02 am: ||
Most bikes have exhaust coming out the sides... I have seen plenty of Jap bikes that have been laid down before, and the exhaust just has a dent or some scratches. Would that apply for the 1125 also? I can't stand the sound of the stock exhaust either. Kinda sounds like a suped up lawnmower. Can't wait 2 install my HR1 this week....
|Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 11:11 am: ||
Yeah, I definitely "opened" up the stock exhaust. Get compliments on the sound now instead of "what is that?"
|Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 12:03 pm: ||
When I lowsided at TWS, the stock exhaust absorbed an impact as the bike slid across the tarmac over the curbing. I'm glad for the placement of the exhaust system, frankly. Mike, I think you made an excellent point.
And I got another stock exhaust coming from Buell-sponsored racer Joel Spalding... he's gone aftermarket unit now.
Maybe his exhaust will make me fast, too...
(Message edited by pariah on October 15, 2008)
|Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 01:23 pm: ||
I agree I put the Jardine on my bike. I think I may have come out slightly better if I had the stocker on. Although my Jardine wasn't even scratched. It got pushed up into the swing arm and cracked the tip. Bad thing is I may have bent the frame..... Is this possible?The stock exhaust mey help keep the bike safer in the crash to?? I did bend the rear rim and the swing arm bolt is bent a little it looks like.
So the Jardine lean angle is OK to those questioning it..... But as mentioned I can see how it could tear up the swing arm
(Message edited by hitman44139 on October 15, 2008)
|Posted on Friday, October 17, 2008 - 01:14 am: ||
On the plus side, the aftermarket exhaust may keep the clutch cover and puck from getting trashed.
(Message edited by kttemplar on October 17, 2008)
|Posted on Friday, October 17, 2008 - 11:11 am: ||
Thanks for the great replies. As with most everything else this sounds like a good case "6 in one hand, half dozen in the other" or is "sh*t in wand, wish in the other..."