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D_adams
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 01:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got a business partner that is willing to go in on this if I get a good enough response and it can be done for the right price. Would $50 US shipped anywhere in the continental US be fair? Billet aluminum spools, SS hardware and instructions on how to do it. From what I see, it would be 1) secure the bike, 2) jack it up, 3) remove the rear wheel, 4) drill out from inside since there's a boss in the casting and it looks like it lines up straight across and was quite possibly even designed just for this. 5) install bolt, spool, washer and nut. 6) reinstall rear wheel. done.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 01:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Remember if you want to sell them on here, you will need to become a sponsor. Send a PM to Blake for more details. : )
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D_adams
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 01:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does selling them on ebay require being a sponsor here?



(Message edited by d_adams on October 10, 2008)
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 02:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am not an admin, so I not know for sure. I believe just selling on eBay fine, but if your going around spamming your ebay link all over, don't expect them to be on here very long.

Again, send a message to Blake, I am not an admin so I can't speak on their behalf : )
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/boar d-profile.cgi?action=sendmsg&to=blake&db=passwd
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Pariah
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 02:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just an FYI... Pit Bull's new 1125R rear stand has these "wrap around" rollers to secure the swing arm without spools... got me one of these recently. It allows the rear wheel to be removed, too.

But if your spools are inexpensive enough, it might be cheaper to go with them and a spool rear stand. The Pit Bull 1125R stand retails for $150 at American Sportbike:

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D_adams
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 02:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, Pm sent, and I'm working on an actual storefront right now. Thx for the input and I never planned to spam anyone, just trying to share what I have available to me.

Here's what they look like for now, sorry for the fuzzy pic, but all I had to use was my cell phone.
Post up if you guys like them or not.





(Message edited by d_adams on October 10, 2008)
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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It'd be great to have another Badweb sponsor and I hope you understand the concerns about using Badweb for free market research - especially researching a product line that competes directly with one or two established sponsors.

Free Advertising - or mentioning products with links to sales/websites is also an iffy deal.

NO - I AM NOT any official here, just another user/abuser of Badweb - just the above statements come from this issue of "free advertising" or "market research" having come up many times in the past.

I actually PAID for Glendale HD/Buell's presence here out of my own pockets ... since Glendale (and Antelope Valley and Bartels) all support my racing so I'd have no conflicts if I did some "pimping" for them. Also IF I decided to market my own bodywork and goodies, I'd be able to do it through Glendale.

I see you're PM-ing Blake... cool deal!

I'm going to be doing the same thing for a new upcoming racing sponsor too.
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Hammer71
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks just like the ones Trojan has pictured in his thread.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah - a spool is a spool is a spool. I wish you all the luck, I just think you might come across more competition than you anticipated.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also, the 09s come with spools from the factory... so you're going into business making spools for one model year.
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D_adams
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm getting the impression that it's a bad idea to try to build a better/cheaper mousetrap here.

Personally, I had already made the set I have and saw the ones from Trojan. Mine are a little rough compared to his. I didn't make mine to look pretty, I did it to hold up my bike so I can change the rear tire. It's kinda like that turbo car muffler someone welded up for their bike. He obviously didn't care what it looked like, he was after something else specific, and as I recall, it was just a particular sound. I didn't design this spool for anyone else and I really didn't care what it looked like, I just wanted it to work.
I also realize that it's a limited market, since the 2008 models didn't come with them. Not a big deal really. I honestly don't want to make 10,000 of these things. Sure, the money would be nice, but think of all that work.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dean - I know that myself, and likely anyone else here, doesn't want to push you away from small business venture. Having a degree in entreprenuership, I would love nothing more than everyone who had an idea and the drive to start a new company actually do so.

If you really feel strongly about making these spools, then I say go for it, so long as you understand the hurdles you have (as outlined by other posters). But with that info, run some numbers to see if it makes sense - would the cost to sell them be less than the profit you could make? And don't forget to pay YOURSELF first - your time isn't free. That has to be factoered in as well.

If you want to make them merely because you just enjoy it, then that's a different deal altogether, and you'll have to weigh all the pros and cons to it.

Personally, I have a number of ideas that I'd like to develop into some kind of business, and most are rather novel if I say so myself. But I lack the time, space and drive needed to really see these ideas through, so for now, they wait.
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Hammer71
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Make them with the same thread size as the Jap bikes that way you can market them in both arenas.
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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Make them with the same thread size as the Jap bikes that way you can market them in both arenas.

And then compete with a couple dozen firmly established companies who have been selling spools and sliders for years? Tough thing to break into, you think?

Attack, Woodcraft, ProTek, Pingel, are a few that come to mind (I've used them all) and some no-name sliders that I've picked up at the track after a get-off and repair same day.

(Message edited by slaughter on October 11, 2008)
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D_adams
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2008 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, they're on ebay, but I'm not posting a link, since it would compete with an advertiser here. Should be pretty easy to find for someone who wants them. I'm going to see if one of the local dealers wants to sponsor this.

(Message edited by d_adams on October 18, 2008)
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White79bu
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2008 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I saw them on ebay this morning. I have thought about the spools, because I already have a pitbull rear stand for spools. I was going to buy the 1125r stand but the spools would save me $100. I just worry about drilling and taping the swing arm. I need to do something because my rear tire is getting worn out.
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Ccryder
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IIRC the Trojan spools have the back side contoured for the side of the swingarm.
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D_adams
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As are mine. That picture doesn't show it, but the one's I'm making now all have the same curved profile on the back.



(Message edited by d_adams on October 19, 2008)
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D_adams
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For those of you in the St Louis area, I can also install these spools in about 30-45 minutes. I'd need a day's notice to set it up. PM me for more info if anyone's interested. The install charge would be $30
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Gschuette
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 02:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice spools. Go Cards!
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