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Chevycummins
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was told that you need the race license before you can order the race ecm from Buell. It even states that in the performance catalog that the ecm is in. You also need the license for the carbon fiber wheels.

My dealer is willing to work with me with their dyno for the right price. I plan on trying to make a custom map that just effects above 5000rpms. I am happy with the new flash from Buell that corrected most of the low speed problems I had. I feel that the upper end could stand some changes and in open loop operation it should not screw with the AFV so the numbers would still be normal. This seems to be the safest way to me.
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Xb9
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes you need a race license.
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 12:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Unfortunately NOTHING that has the potential to put a bike in violation of EPA can be sold to the non-racing public. Goes for pipes, ECM, other goodies that can affect ANY emissions/sound (oil catch cans, intakes). The fines are just TOO FREAKING HEAVY for the OEM to risk being bled white by the gubmint. That is why the aftermarket has stepped in though in CA at $10K per violation, it ought to be spooky... multiply that by how many folks are using the system and I don't know why ANYBODY would sell something in CA or other states like AZ or NY either.

Technoresearch will probably have to be careful to avoid stepping in the stinking pile of &*$% that is all that's left of Powercommander in CA after the lawsuits.

Bummer but that's how it is. Stamping on a "Racing Use Only" label doesn't hold up in court as Powercommander found out. There is apparently more to their $2M+ loss to CAL/EPA than what I know but since then they DO sell modules but they have had to undergo strict CA acceptance testing.

Frankly, if you were Buell, would you screw with it?

It'll have to come from the aftermarket. There really is no way to get one without a racing license on file with Buell.

I had seen Technoresearch get a module for the 1125R through Matt Gross (and I have a pretty low opinion of Matt Gross) - and last I heard, the system wasn't yet working. What SUCKED is he (Gross) was charging the guys at (un-named) as a consultant while he shipped the ECM to Technoresearch and FURTHER charged them to setup a system for them that COULDN'T yet be used.

(yeah, that kinda pisses me off - not at Technoresearch but at Matt Gross - another topic for another day)
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Slypiranna
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 08:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its funny how the solenoid eliminator slipped by the race license only issue. mm
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Dhdjr
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can someone give me the website or contact info for DirectLink? I'd like to check their tuner out. thanks
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Slypiranna
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 08:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.technoresearch.com/
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Xb9
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 09:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sly,
The Buell OEM resistor is used for termination of the CAN buss on every 1125 sold. There's one on the harness near the ECM from the factory.

It's a standard OEM production item, just used in a different connector/location on the buss when applied to the solenoid elimination.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sly,

The solenoid eliminator has a very marginal effect, not on exhaust/pollution emissions, only on noise emissions.
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Slypiranna
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That makes sense to me now. Thanks Xb9 & Blake!
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