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Crowley
| | Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 03:51 pm: | 
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Well said Mr Slaughter. Ditto in the air and on motorbikes. |
Hwyranger
| | Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 04:11 pm: |
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}Yes. It was not.
Details please?
The fifth gear issue is something that happened around 150+. The bike would have come to rest much farther than two blocks down the road. Not to mention the amount of damage would be much more.
The guy was definitely hauling ass, but not enough to have the recall issue playing a role. Besides, this is a residential street IN THE RAIN, what business would he have getting that fast anyway? |
Fresnobuell
| | Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 04:34 pm: |
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I know about the recall...my question to Court was how can he SURE that the recall wasn't a factor...did they pull apart the bike since it happened in Wisconsin.... |
Court
| | Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 04:48 pm: |
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>>>>my question to Court was how can he SURE that the recall wasn't a factor...did they pull apart the bike since it happened in Wisconsin....
They did not.
There is not way that the condition that contributed to the fifth gear oiling problem could have been related to the accident.
Recalls are no declared capriciously or without sound engineering data as relates to cause and effect.
The 5th gear oiling situation, like the Buell shock absorber recalls about 10 years ago, resulted from something Buell Engineers determined COULD (it never actually happened in either case) happen.
It appears . . . and I this portion of my comments are PURE SPECULATION . . . that the accident was related to poor judgment, speed and operator error.
Court |
Court
| | Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 04:51 pm: |
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By the way . . . ditto on the Steve-ment. . . . I am a pilot and without exception each and every time I have done something very stupid (can you say fuel exhaustion on IFR final in a 310) in an airplane it's never been funny nor has there been a smile on my face.
The lessons you survive seem to stick well however. . . . and I've always had a great deal more respect for that "switch to fullest tanks" item on the pre-landing checklist. It was the single time in my life that what I estimate was less than 2 seconds felt like 11-1/2 years. |
Jpfive
| | Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 05:15 pm: |
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Let's hijack this thread just a little further... Fastest speed on three wheels - Mach 2, F4B Phantom trike - wheels retracted. Two overheat lights at 1.9 mach, and scorching on the intakes on the radome. I'm very happy that I never died doing what I loved best...
Jack
P.S. My 1125 is more fun... |
Deks69
| | Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 05:55 pm: |
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Anyone that doesn't understand that it IS punishable by death shouldn't be any where near a motorcycle. It's a risk that we all understand everytime we roll out of the garage.
Apparently this kid didn't. Which is the sad part, I know as youths we've all thought we were immortal. It was just a nice thought if life could be more forgiving to some stupid mistakes. However that is dreamland. |
Paint_shaker
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 06:05 pm: |
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Sounds like bad decision making... Grabbing a handful of throttle on a lonely stretch of open road (exceeding the posted speed limit) is a lot different than doing the same in a poplated area.
I kinda thought wet road at first, but it could also be that the FD hosed down the street after the crash. |
Hwyranger
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 08:25 pm: |
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I kinda thought wet road at first, but it could also be that the FD hosed down the street after the crash.
negative, if you look at the video, you will see it was raining pretty hard out there. |
Boudrx79
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 11:57 pm: |
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I read up more on the deceased, the parents have now buried 2 sons and 1 brother. The only way he was connected to us was by his bike, but I remember being 10ft. Tall & Bulletproof yrs. Ago. Just a lack of respect for the passenger, his own life, the bike, and poor judgement. This could been anything a. car, skydiving, hunting, but this is how his life ended. Just treat each day as if were your last.
Boudrx |
Fresnobuell
| | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 01:38 am: |
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Natural selection at its finest. |
Pariah
| | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 09:52 am: |
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Hey Fresno, that's kinda harsh and cold, don't ya think? |
Midknyte
| | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 09:56 am: |
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I read up more on the deceased
any word on how's the passenger doing? |
Fresnobuell
| | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 01:36 pm: |
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Hey Fresno, that's kinda harsh and cold, don't ya think?
Yes...but true. Should we feel sorry for the kid that appears to have been going too fast in less than optimum conditions with a passenger in tow? Not to mention the possibility of alcohol being involved, although there is no confirmation of that. This accident was 100% avoidable--hard for me to get too sympathetic. NOW, if he was just cruising down the street and a car pulled out in front of him...it's a different set of circumstances entirely.
One could even get upset over the incident as it is yet another sportbike blackeye and it certainly won't help our insurance rates either.
I do feel bad for the passenger, though she had a choice in the matter too--both in her selection of friends and whether or not to get on the back of that bike. |
Thurstonbuell
| | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 02:03 pm: |
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Much as my nephew was Monday nite 
http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20080715/NEWS /230327679 |
Brad1445
| | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 02:14 pm: |
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We have all sped and this could happen to any of us. I can throw no rocks on this one.
This is a good argument against the right to "Bare arms? |
Fresnobuell
| | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 02:40 pm: |
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Much as my nephew was Monday nite
I agree, Brad. This one on Thurston's nephew could happen to any of us...these are the accidents that make me think about the risk we take. |
Ccryder
| | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 03:03 pm: |
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Ken:
Those are my fears that we all live with every day we ride. Hopefully he will recover quickly.
Just because we are given a lane to ride in, doesn't mean that others will respect that "right". Every day I see other vehicle cross the line and I thank God that I'm able to avoid them by "seeing" that scenario play out before it happens.
100% defensive is not always enough.
Neil S. |
