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Bob_thompson
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now I hope I'm not mis-understood and I am not a Buell lover without conscience but, as I read of quite a FEW people having some kind engine problem, from heat to ECM and charging I am wondering if these problems are not just quirks of the manufacturing process and NOT an inherent ECM design flaw. I have not experienced any of the problems you guys are having except some very low rpm running before my reflash that I thought was merely the high performance tuning of the engine that I have experienced with all high performance engines I have had or built. I really do ride the bike to its "full potential" even at my age and have adapted to its low speed(below 3000 rpm quirks) but, after the reflash, mine pulls away smoothly, goes through town smoothly at 2000 rpm(about 17 mph), accelerates quickly grabbing a handful anywhere from 4000 and up, does not surge ANYwhere in the rpm range and has just been great fun riding in all respects. No heat, no charging and evidently no ECM problems.

Now am I a minority or a majority of the new 1125R owners or are there others with problems that just do not post here? I have kept my bike completely stock with the exception of cosmetics and adhered to the owners manual with some input from here on things like oil level, etc.

I also think Buell should be doing recalls, if there are real problems out there (maybe not) and not letting us owners,(not me) who do have problems figure them out on our own or with input from this forum. If there are problems we should be notified by our dealers to bring the bike in for these fixes. Period.

I guess time will tell which is the case and I hope BMC will respond to keep ALL of us owners of new 1125R's completely satisfied. Its called "customer service" and what makes a great company great.
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Thurstonbuell
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bob ,

I tend to think , as I myself have been reminded of in the past ......things tend to get amplified here on BWB , and is NOT a true gauge to the larger picture . IMO
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Gfc55
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bob,

My experience has been much like yours. I had some slight stumbling at low RPM's before the reflash that I also attributed to a high-performance state of tune. The reflash made my 1125r much smoother from 2000 RPM and up, so I don't find the need to rev the engine and/or slip the clutch to creep forward in city traffic. This is a huge improvement to me.

My battery has also been much happier since the reflash. My Battery Tender used to stay on the charge mode for several hours (4-6 hours) after each ride, and now it goes to the float/maintenance charge mode (steady green) in about 10-30 minutes at the most. Buell made a significant improvement in reducing the electrical draw during normal riding, so the bike keeps up its charge just fine now.

I think this bike is working quite well.

George
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My battery has also been much happier since the reflash. My Battery Tender used to stay on the charge mode for several hours (4-6 hours) after each ride, and now it goes to the float/maintenance charge mode (steady green) in about 10-30 minutes at the most. Buell made a significant improvement in reducing the electrical draw during normal riding, so the bike keeps up its charge just fine now.

Interesting. I purchased a Battery Tender after my battery died overnight. It took 2.5 day to get it back to the point where I could start the bike. I occasionally hook up the bike and it goes green in about 30 minutes, sometimes less. I have not had the reflash. SOmething tells me that either we have WAY different riding styles or there is something going on different electrically between our bikes (mine is stock electrically.)
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Chevycummins
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fresnobuell

I've had my bike for 3 months with no dead battery or charging problem. Then a couple of weeks ago the battery was dead and it only sat overnight. I have a battery tender but have not used it in a few months. There is something going on with the bikes, it is not a charging problem for the ones that die overnight. My bike is stock also. No extra electrical loads added on. I think that the random parasitic draw that some of us have is in the cluster. I have a bug on my battery now that will alert me if the battery voltage is going below 12V. I am determined to find what the draw is. Its just hard to catch it due to its nature.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chevy, I agree with you. In retrospect of my last post, a 4-6 hour charge on the Tender is not so bad as the Tender is the epitome of a trickle charger (ie SLOW.)

SOMETHING is going one--possibly so random that even Buell is not admiting/finding the problem. ONe can only hope that it is caught and addressed. The first dead battery was in my garage and Murphy's law says the next time will be in BFE somewhere.
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Thurstonbuell
Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 08:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My experience has been much like yours. I had some slight stumbling at low RPM's before the reflash that I also attributed to a high-performance state of tune. The reflash made my 1125r much smoother from 2000 RPM and up, so I don't find the need to rev the engine and/or slip the clutch to creep forward in city traffic. This is a huge improvement to me.


It is strange that it seems those of us who did not problems now have issues post falsh , and those who did have issues are now cured by having the reflash downloaded , whats up with that ?
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is strange that it seems those of us who did not problems now have issues post falsh , and those who did have issues are now cured by having the reflash downloaded , whats up with that ?

Great point. A succinct reason why I have held off. The waters are as muddy as ever IMO. My guess is that there are variances in the bikes...and Buell's fix(es) are hittin some correctly and not others. It is all so secretive, so we are left guessing and/or rolling the dice with the re-flash

Speculated Pros:
Better MPG
Better low RPM--performance

Speculated Cons/questions:
Less fan operation=more heat
Affects top end of power curve?
Possibly turns good running bike into a not-so-good-running bike
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Arillius13
Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 02:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Im going to post this also in the relfash thread but I brought my bike in yesterday for the reflash and they still have it. I called not to long ago and was told that my bike pretty much will not excet the reflash.

He then continued to tell me that Harley released a notice that there is a new reflash coming out to address some other issues that the recent one had and for the bikes that wouldnt take the recent reflash?

Is there any truth behind this or is the dude just selling me some BS so I dont get mad that they cant reflash my bike? Can Anon verify this?
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