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No_rice
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so my 1125 has about 1700 miles on it now.

i still have yet to really start feeling this bike.

i took the old 9 out on saturday for about 150/160 miles and had an AWESOME time!

took the 1125 out sunday on almost the same route, same speed, same weather and such. just not as much fun.

LOTS and LOTS of wheelies!!! now that is fun, but thats where it sits.

i keep messing and messing with the suspension, but cant seem to keep the front end stable. now i run pretty low air pressure compared to most of you but it has always worked great on my xb's. i have yet to mess with the air pressure to much and that is next on the list.

i cant keep the front end planted. now i dont mean wheelies, i love those. i mean i get much above 100 and the front end is wiggling all the way to the top(like its lifting). leaned over through corners at that speed it is still wiggling, or slower under acceleration. i even have ramped the preload up another notch to try and keep it from squating under acceleration. no help. getting that sorted out will help, but thats not everything.

the damn thing is just plain HOT. i have never complained about the heat from my xb's even sitting in traffic on 100 degree days. on the 11 i have actually caught myself checking to make sure my leg isnt against the exhaust somehow.

i finally got the first fuel boiling in the frame issues this weekend also. it was in the low 80's and the coolant temp never was much over 190. it was just hissing its guts out the breather tube. so much so that the wires right by the end of it were fuel soaked. at $4.12 a gallon(and 31 mpg on a good day) i want every drop burned through my bike not pissed out of it...

i could hear the fuel bubbling in the frame, then take the cap off and see the movement. not to cool. not like im worried about it blowing up or something, but i still dont like it none the less. honestly, i wouldnt even mind it so much if it wasnt for the breather hose puking stuff out and filling my house up with gasoline smell. it has never done it before, and this isnt the first time its been in the 80's or that i was out playing on it. now it did it two day in a row.

the low speed rough running is just sucking. i cant have a bike that doesnt want to run anywhere near smooth at the speed limit in town, which dismisses the notion that ive heard i need to run the rpms higher because its a high reving motor. thats bullshit. trying to run it above 4000rpm puts me above the speed limit even in first gear.

it does stutter once in awhile while cruising even at something higher like 6000 rpm. i cracked the throttle off idle yesterday leaving a stop light and it back fired through the throttle bodies so hard i felt it on my legs through the frame and killed the bike dead in its tracks. yes it had the updated map the day they came out.

its had one time where it was stone dead after sitting for one day. put it on the charger. then started right up and not done it again since.

then there is the back wheel and rotor. the exhaust has just destroyed them. 1700 miles and they are so stained i cant even get them cleaned back off completely. even when cleaned good you can still see brown spots stained into the blue. then my back brake howls half the time recently. i figure its from the glaze that the heat and soot from the exhaust has put on the pads. it is not real confidence inspiring when going into a corner and the brake starts howling.

none of this stuff is REALLY major, but add it all together and im just not feelin it...

i know an exhaust(and some well placed sawzall work to the body) would help how i feel about it not having the character of my 9. that thing just shakes with anger and i love it!!!

this makes me feel like a whiner, and thats not my style. i dont want it to become my style either. i figure maybe i just need a fresh perspective.
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Brad1445
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Your a great guy. I hope your love affair returns.
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Thurstonbuell
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No rice ,

I too have the following , VERY rough thru town , even though I've been told it's me , and I dont usually mind the heat between my legs , but not when it comes to my bike or my seat .

My clutch cover is leaking , boiling fuel , too many backfires thru the throttle bodies to mention , the side of the air box cover looks like it's gonna fly off , and makes the motor come to a screaching halt , to the point you think the motor just seized and somethings gonna break , maybe even me if I dont get her fired back up in time .

She puke's gas , cleaning my rear wheel daily sucks.......


I cant get over how much I DO like this bike , or WANT to , I personally love the suspension , the way she handles , I dont have the shake's or wiggle you do , I dont and have no other Buell to compare , but do and have had many other motorcycles that I am comparing it too.

If we can get thru some of these issues , then for me atleast.....I will have my new favorite bike , the 1125r
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Cobralightning
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I went from a 99 X1 to the 1125. I think it is a big improvement in handling and power.

But there are a lot of days riding to work or just putting around town I would love to have the X1 back. I know she is in a good home, but I love that low end grunt and cruising I had with it.

I do not have any of the problems you all have listed. My battery died once. But I do miss the old X1.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's why I've been bitching about my "driveability" issue.
It can and does run smooth, all the way down to 2k if the mapping is right.

As far as the wheels, the Amber Translucid cleans up with a wipe of a rag.
Another reason I'm glad I switched.

Z
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Spectrum
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow, I guess everybody has their on interest and tastes, but my 9S was just not in the same class on fun factor is the 11. I have not looked back. What's more the more I ride the 11, the more I love this bike.

By the way acetone will clean the exhaust stain fast and easy.
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Slypiranna
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Acetone?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nuff said.
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Bobup
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No-Rice

you need to keep tire at the recommended pressures 34F and 36R

I can tell you that once you do this, the steering is neutral....no effort needed

with about 2-3 lbs low ....you HAVE to push the bar to make it steer...not as much fun

my shop had the suspension dialed first time out...feels rock solid while cornering...no gate hinge effect at all

HTH
bob
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Thurstonbuell
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Zac ,

" It can and does run smooth, all the way down to 2k if the mapping is right. "

YES IT DOES , I want my original 1125 back !

I wish they would make my original mapping available for those of us who it worked for .

I live near Cleveland , it has been and is sometime out-right cold here , I'm not sure but the mapping issues , backfiring coming from both ends , and driveability seems to improve the warmer it get's here .

But I try to ride all year long , not just summer , plus it's too early to tell ....... I've got 2200 mile's on her , and for around here this year , that aint bad .
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No_rice
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow, I guess everybody has their on interest and tastes, but my 9S was just not in the same class on fun factor is the 11. I have not looked back. What's more the more I ride the 11, the more I love this bike.

well i have alot of blood and sweat into my 9 also. its not your average run of the mill. even given the fact you can see a couple bottles its quicker than you think it should be. especially off the bottles.



now i realize i dont have the "bond" with the 1125 so i am trying to change some things around still.

also trying to get the kinks worked out of it.





i havent completely given up, im just getting frustrated i guess.
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Spectrum
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes Acetone. I've done a lot of work with it over the years. My dad manufactured boats and if your familiar with fiberglass work you know what I'm talking about. By the way this is what professional carpet cleaners use to get bubble gum out of your carpets. Turns bubble gum into powder.

It do know the hazards of Acetone, but it does not appear to cause any damage to the powdercoat. At least not in the dozen or so times I've used it so far. I doubt it could be any worse long term than the corrosives in the exhaust soot.

Tim - I've commented before on how great your customizations looked on your 9. I guess I just never had that strong of a bond with mine. But then I'm still learning to ride and have a lot more confidence in the 11 than I ever had on the 9.
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Citified
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am scared to get the remap, mine runs beautifully and I would hate to ruin that.
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Bigdog_tim
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 01:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tim - wow. I hear your pain. In some ways - I agree. I am not as far down that path yet.

On the post-flash stumbles - my dealer tells me that BMC is working on fix. It seems that the stumble is a lean condition between 3-4K (all gears). The lean condition comment is my dealer - not necessarily BMC. For me - it is a HUGE annoyance (and yes, I insist they fix it) but can be a little patient.

My suspension was dialed in by my dealer. I am a big guy (240) - so not quite the same setup as factory - but it works pretty well for me.

I haven't had the gas boil issue - am thankful I haven't.

For now - It is working for me to let my dealer advocate on my behalf and get things sorted. When it does work, it produces more grins than my M2 or my XB12R. I still have (and ride) both - so am reminded often of why I like the ll25R and what it does for me the other two don't do. But - and to be fair - the other two do things for me that the 1125R can't - probably more so the the M2 is a different ride and good for different reasons.

I am still happy with my purchase and as a dedicated "Bueller", will keep working with my dealer (and indirectly, BMC) to get it all sorted. As I said before - when it is working, the 1125R produces more grins per mile than anything else in my fleet. It really is too bad that there are so many rough spots.
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Dalton_gang
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For months I was thinking that I had somehow been lucky enough to get a perfect bike but over the past 2 or 3 weeks I have somehow inherited most every problem mentioned on this board. I already had a few fluid leaks (no big deal). It always has pooped and died a lot when taking off which sometimes will go away for a week and then comes right back and will haunt me 4 or 5 times in one day. The mirrors still suck. The recent issues have been the surging, the dead spot when cranking on the throttle, and the steaming and boiling gas.
I went to the dealer last Saturday and voiced my concerns about all these issues, they were supposed to contact me this past Monday or Tuesday to let me know when and what they were going to do to fix it all. I assume that by re flashing the ECM and by disconnecting the solenoid that most of my issues will disappear (at least I hope).
I also gave up on keeping the back wheel blue. Was only able to get it about 80% clean when I had the wheel off the bike but now it looks the same as it did before (black).
Still really like the bike even though I have so many complaints. By the way I am pushing 3000 miles now. I have about 500 miles on the new Michelin Pilot Power tire and it has been working great for me (even in the rain).

Does anybody know what happened to Baggermike?
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Thurstonbuell
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where's Bagger , and Where's Court ? Oh , and...sorry , but welcome to the club Dalton .

(Message edited by Thurstonbuell on June 04, 2008)
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Ccryder
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike is lurking and listening. Trying to get some farkles done and some other goodies on his Uly for his Son.
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Teach
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My bike does not seem to run as smooth since the re-flash. It seems to stall about 50% of the time when I start it cold. Also, I have the same problems as everyone else seems to be experiencing in the 3 to 4 thou rpm range. My last Buell was a 12S with a Drummer SS and it really ran great. Am I happy with the 1125R? Yes, it is faster, I love the fairing and the protection that it offers, I like the water cooling feature and the overall looks of the bike. Yes, I even like the shape of the muffler!! I have total confidence that Buell will get the mapping straightened out. I also have a VRod with 125 h.p. and the mapping is spot-on, so this problem with the Buell is just a temporary issue, so I will be patient!!
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Thurstonbuell
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Teach ,
I definitely agree with you with the cold stall's , never had that before , she used to start great , run a high steady idle till she was warm , now the idle is all over the place , and stall's are frequent . (along with her tourette's syndrome )
Still waiting to hear about the clutch cover and flash issues form the service dept , but as you said and I agree , both BMC and the great team you have down there at Western Reserve will figure all this out in time , I need to exercise more patience.......
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Teach
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Thurstonbuell!!

You have been a very patient, loyal customer and a true Buell enthusiast. Plus, you are a former student of mine!!! (Had to throw that in!!)

We have at our dealership a number of Buell owners among the staff. (The sales manager, myself, parts associate) We all of us want our customers to be happy with their purchase. That goes beyond the business part of it, because we are Buell enthusiasts, also.

So be patient, (I know it's difficult, it's difficult for me at times) but I have faith in BMC to make the changes needed!!
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Josh_
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have you all checked for the throttle bodies sticking?

When cold, having the throttle stick then jump open could cause stalling, cruising at low speeds you tend to make more throttle corrections and having it sticking and jumping around would make the bike surge.

My bike (no flash) had issues including those that were resolved with properly lubing the linkages.

Just a thought.
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Teach
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Josh

I will check that. I have already checked the baro sensor mounting orientation and that was correct.

Thanks,
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Josh_
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pull the seat (two T30 Torx)
Pull the tank cover (four T30 Torx)
Pull the airbox cover (6? snaps from the lower airbox)
Pull the aircleaner

Move the throttle and see if the butterflies have smooth movement.

If they dont:

Pull the lower airbox (three T30 I believe)

The stuck linkage in my case was on the right side, between the rear and front throttle bodies. An "E" clip and steel washer holds the link on. the links should easily slide on and off and if one side is disconnected the other should move freely.

Spray lube on all springs, butterflies, while moving all the parts to let the lube penetrate.

Josh
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Blazin_buell
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tim , like you I have an older model that I've spent a lot of hours with massaging her into the evil bitch she is. The S-1 is great for around town and back roads up 'til the 400 mile mark. She's totally nasty snorting through the exhaust making people step back. But for long trips and counting on it that my track days are going to be way more fun. I'm having the same thing with the brake howling and I scotch brited the shit out of it and now we'll see how long it takes for it to coat it back up. I had that front end vibration/twitchiness and couldn't get the dealership to figure it out until I switched wheels and it's perfect now, and makes cleaning that exhaust crap off of it much easier since I can use anything this side of acid to clean them. As far as actually using the bike for the stuff my S-1 hated I've made the right choice , I hope you don't give up on it.
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Doerman
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on the right tire pressure. On a trip to the dealer they dutifully checked the tire pressure and set it at 30PSI. I immediately noticed the handling difference on curvy roads. It was back to its sweet handling self again when I set it to 34/35.
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Mustangturbo
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was out dipping into the corners as soon as I bought the bike and I noticed the head shake, I thought that it was the lack of a damper. But I adjusted the throttle and was a little more cautious about the throttle/acceleration through the corners, and its great!! I noticed that it gets light on the front tire if you try to accelerate too hard and starts to wobble. I think that the addition of a damper would be the best thing this bike could ever ask for. But its as stable as my 06' gixxer was without it, and it somehow feels lighter! I am going to Jennings soon, I will let everyone know how it goes... I love this bike!!!
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Bearly
Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 04:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry Rice, for you worries.

I too have the post flash blues the engine. The rest of the bike has disappeared though. I'm probably not a very fast rider, but leaning it over in the corners I just forget about the bike all together. I more worried about keeping my non pucked knees off of the ground. (slow corners) The head does shake but only when the front tire is skimming the pavement under power. I've had to the mid 140's and felt very confident with the bars.

Since I weight about 208, I'm experimenting with slightly higher tire pressures. The rear to 38 and front still on 34 to 35. The tip ins are a little quicker but the back tire spins more in some situations. (not wheelie attempts officer).

As far as suspension settings, I'm pretty close to the factory settings for my weight, with little more rebound on the front.
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Smoke
Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 06:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you might try flipping your tire pressure numbers. try 36 on the front and 35 on the rear. on the track measured hot, i am running 33/34 front and 30/31 rear. minimal spin up unless tim induced. at 155 wet and 170 geared up factory suspension settings are very happy for me.
tim
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The_internet
Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

im running 42/40 and i like the feeling better than 36 recommended PSI or whatever it was.


also the setting of the suspension was super whacked from the stealership. i set it up via the manual and have tweaked slightly from that, and im super happy with the handling.
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Shwinston
Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm new to this forum. I bought my 1125r January 4th and I just broke 9k on my bike. I'm a commuter; 80 miles round trip, so that's why I've been racking up the miles. The only problem I've experienced with my bike was with the battery. The first time it drained completely within one day of not riding it. The second time it drained after a week of not riding. They replaced the battery after the second drain. Other then that I've been having a blast on it. I don't typically exceed speeds past 100 mph, so I can't really testify as to how it handles at high speeds, but I'm loving it so far.
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Blazin_buell
Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shane, glad to see you on here. Good to here that you've had an almost trouble free bike, enjoy.
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Shwinston
Posted on Saturday, June 07, 2008 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are you the same Shane I exchanged with on buellboards.com?
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Big_dog
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No Rice;
I noticed on your pictures you removed mirrors and all 4 blinkers and relocated the lic. plate.
For the lic. plate did you just use self tapping screws and screw into the plastic?

Terry
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Blazin_buell
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes Shane , I am the other Shane, blazin or otherwise. Definately keep an I eye on this board, lot's of useful info.
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No_rice
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No Rice;
I noticed on your pictures you removed mirrors and all 4 blinkers and relocated the lic. plate.
For the lic. plate did you just use self tapping screws and screw into the plastic?

actually i drill through the undertail and bolt them on.

i am not planning on doing anything to rash. i plan on seeing what transpiers this year yet(atleast currently) and holding on to the 1125 for awhile.

after awhile, if its MAIN shining point is still that its a fast bike, then i may just have to go with that and make sure its a REAL DAMN FAST bike by next summer.
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