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Blazin_buell
| | Posted on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 11:03 pm: | 
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#231 Out of nowhere around 800 miles bike sat less than a week and the battery went dead. Put it on a charger until full and no problems since . 1300 miles now. |
Fresnobuell
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 01:11 am: |
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Blazin, sounds just like my scenario to the tee. Did you go on an extended ride before you put her up for the few days? i have a hunch that something is triggering a battery drain while the bike is off (following long warm rides.) Putting it on a battery tender can offset this issue until a fix comes thru. |
Zac4mac
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 06:56 am: |
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Well, had some time and ran a couple of tests in "Charging problem Discussion"
Got everything hot and checked charging and the VReg's behavior.
Results - all's good, on mine.
Heat makes the output voltage drop, the VR has no part in that and as long as your revs are over 2K rpm, she charges.
I tested up to 200˚ F.
Pretty much excludes an Engineering design problem with the stator or VR.
Stator failing due to heat - a process problem that BMC has a handle on. Easy to check -
Go into Diag Mode after a hard ride, note temp on ODIS before going into DM.
When in DM, rev the engine 2k-4k and see if volts are over 12.6-12.8.
Battery drains over some days - Can't check that one, can't leave the bike alone for more than 2 days.
Use a Tender until a fix is out, just in case.
Little problems that, if watched, won't leave you in the boonies.
Take a chill pill.
Z |
Buellborn
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 09:33 am: |
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Zac, I think it is fair for other owners to expect the their new Motorcycle perform as advertised.
Not everyone is as talented in tinkering, some just want to ride. |
Zac4mac
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 10:36 am: |
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No argument at all Buellborn.
I'm just saying take it easy, don't succumb to mass hysteria or worse.
The 1125R is a new beast full of new stuff.
Yes some people have REAL problems - Baggermike, Interex, CaptNemo, etc.
Hopefully those get fixed soon, the onus is on BMC for that.
I'm confident that they'll pull through.
Don't let the few problems some are having "wreck your buzz".
Get out and ride that new 1125R, just make sure and take your cell phone.
Zack |
Baggermike
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 11:21 am: |
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I think that I will install a battery switch to turn off power if the bike does drain the battery when off, this is not a problem when home just hook it up to the battery tender, but if I am touring in the mountains then that would give me piece of mind. |
Gefadec
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 01:21 pm: |
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I had a similar experience of battery voltage loss and drainage with a new 99 X1 over the course of several months, after purchasing the bike. After several rectifiers, a battery, several days at the dealership, numerous sessions on the tender and jump starts.......I purchased a service manual and got out the ohmmeter.
Long story short...with the ignition key in the "acc" position, the European model X1 had a provision/law that required both the front head light and rear brake light illuminate with a reduced voltage and brightness. The US models had the same exact wiring harness as the European model but US laws only required the rear brake light to illuminate. The wiring to the headlight, on the US model was capped and stowed behind the front headlight assembly inside of the light casing.
On my X1, the dedicated "acc" headlight wire was not capped and stowed but had a terminal crimped to the end of the wire and was bolted directly to a ground stud, inside of the headlight casing.....a direct short to ground that would slowly drain the battery in about a week to two weeks worth of riding back and forth to work. I'm not saying this is the fix for the 1125R's issues but it does sound like a short somewhere. |
Sharkytattoo
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 10:35 pm: |
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Check the grounds, then check them again. Buells are notorious for bad ground issues and will cause charging problems that seem intermittent or un-fixable. |
Bearly
| | Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 10:09 pm: |
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Crapola, I may have to change the status of Serial 142 as being electrically problem free. 900 miles currently and I went out to ride today ad the bike was completely dead. No lights. Now, I had it on a tender six days ago. I took it off, and road around for about 100 miles. I've left it off the tender in the garage since. Bummer.
How could I ride this bike to home coming? |
Zac4mac
| | Posted on Monday, February 25, 2008 - 11:02 am: |
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Bearly - there may still be an issue with the system discharging when sitting idle.
If you need peace of mind while riding, get a little LED voltmeter.
Kuryakyn makes one that's 30 or 40 bucks.
I got one last week and installed it.
Rode 277 miles yesterday and the voltage was "in the green" all day.
As long as you can get there and back, your bike isn't going to be sitting around much at Homecoming is it?
I'll be riding mine from Colorado.
Z |
Bearly
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 09:46 am: |
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Thanks for that Zack. I'll put on if the Dealer can't fix it. As luck would have it, after three weeks of waiting to get the parts from the Dealer for the Uly, American Sport Bike sent them post haste. (the Uly Micron Exhaust broke AT the dealer, bummer) So I'm going there tomorrow to swap bikes. They will have to let it sit for a while and see what happens.
Your right Zack, my bad, these are two different issues... hopefully.
It will be interesting know how or what charging system is doing in different situations. With all the heated gear on, and the grips, I haven't had any problems, but who know how close I've been to getting into a low voltage situation before I had a warmer day to ride in. (less watts used for me).
Where did you get that meter? (site?)
I'll be riding as well from VA. I'm going to take two days. |
Zac4mac
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 09:57 am: |
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Bear - Custom Dynamics
http://www.customdynamics.com/LED_battery_gauge.ht m
Maybe you can find one cheaper, best deal I could find (price + shipping).
Zack |
Baggermike
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 11:07 am: |
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I got the eclip shift light from Al at American sport bike and functions just like what Zack has, it checks the charging system on startup but if you hold the buttons when you turn the bike on it will stay as a volt meter and if you plan on getting a shift light than this does both and is 160.00 from Al. Anyway I went for a ride with my 90 watt jacket liner and was warm as toast, I left with the battery reading 12.4 at the battery and got home from just riding around town for an hour and the battery read 12.2 volts and 11.9 in dio mode, I kept the rpms between 3000 rpms to 4000 rpms so that is 20 watts more than if I had the high beams on, I got more test to do, like at highway speeds with the jacket liner on which is probably when I would really need it anyway in the cold at highway speeds or up in the mountains but can not do any more testing today I got to hook up the volt meter and maybe ammeter, to not sure, I know where I am putting the volt meter but not sure if the amp meter will also fit. is going to rain soon so no more test for today. |
Spectrum
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 11:31 am: |
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How about a picture of the Eclip's Shift Light mounted on the 1125R? |
Baggermike
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 11:53 am: |
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I am waiting now for it to show up then I am installing it and will take some pictures of it on the bike, I hope the film is still good and the pictures come out good. so should have it installed today and will take pictures and post them when I get them back probably in a couple of days I will post them, you can see it at www.ecliptech.com.au |
Zac4mac
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 12:28 pm: |
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Here's a shot of mine.
Z |
Baggermike
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 01:28 pm: |
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I just took my bike to the bank which is 4 miles away, when I parked the bike after riding around town with the heated jacket liner the battery read 12.2 volts, so I went to the bank and rode swiftly to the bank and back with out the heated jacket liner and the battery read 12.56 volts not bad. Mike |
Sheridan_bueller
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 02:04 pm: |
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Superb pic Zac. The set up is first class.
JJ |
Father_of_an_era
| | Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 08:39 pm: |
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}Does anyone know of a solution for the drained battery issue? I have approximately 850 and now the bike is dead. No juice to start the bike. I have Harley picking it up on Tuesday but if this is going to be a reoccurring problem, then I want them to know it. Thanks for any insight on this issue. Any help would be appreciated. |
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