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Nickcaro
Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2008 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

also, does anyone know what that little driving light bulb is?
The manual just states a replacement part number, I would like to see if I can get some yellow bulbs in there, or maybe some LED action.
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Baggermike
Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2008 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what is up with the H11 bulbs are they better than H8 for some reason? if they are tell me why. I would not buy the bulbs on ebay they are cheap and you get what you pay for, get silvania silverstar or piaa bulbs if you do not go with hid's, you need high quality bulb and you will be disapointed in those bulbs on ebay. Mike
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Baggermike
Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2008 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

those are five watt wedge light bulbs and can get them any color in pep boys and also in led, I am thinking strobes or turn signals for those bulbs, I had blue one was not bad and if I had the blueish hid's I think that would look nice. Mike
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Xb9
Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2008 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

H8 = 35 watt
H11 = 55 watt

Ccryder:HID's - I bought the ones on ebay for $105.99 (see link above)
I haven't ridden with them yet so the jury is out but they burn the paint off the wall inside the house!
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Xb9
Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2008 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Osram H11 bulbs on ebay: $4.99 each

These are standard Osram bulbs, like what comes stock.

BaggerMike, Opinions vary on the PIAA and other higher priced bulbs - my experience and what I've read tells me there isn't an advantage (unless you go to true HID system)

Hype, name and more $$ doesn't mean you get better - they are all still Halogen technology.
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Baggermike
Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2008 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a feeling they were 55 watt, do you think that is a good idea, all four lights are on at high that is 220 watts, now if I have no problem with my bike and ran the battery down running my low beams and heated gear on and was only 190 watts with the low beam lights, that means the bike can not handle that amount of power and then you have to think about heat? playing with fire. Mike
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Xb9
Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2008 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The HID low beams draw 35watt ea., same as stock.
I don't use the high beams continuously, only for very short periods actually. So I am only adding 40 watts, and only when the high beams are on. I think it will be allright. I don't use heated gear quite as extensively as you do also.

I agree with you I don't think I would go with the H11 x4.
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Baggermike
Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2008 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree but 55 watts is hotter than 35 watts and could cause the plastic to melt and hids run cooler than the 35 watt filaments and last 3 times as long, I also have had the cheap bulbs and piaa, there is a difference with quality bulb however small. I am into safety so I buy what works the best for me and will also hook my high beams to work alone or with the low beams depending on were I am riding, and just trying to help you guy's with what has worked for me and that I think it could cause a problem running 55 watts when the bike is made for 35 watts. Mike
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Nickcaro
Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2008 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Group Buy?

When I was an active forum member as a VW and later an Audi owner, there was often Group Buys. We basically just get a bunch of folks together to commit on a purchase, then the vendor would cut us a break on the price.

We should really get something going here with 1125r owners and hey maybe even start with HID conversions for the low beams!
Do you think any one would be interested?
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Nickcaro
Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2008 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.xenondepot.com/category.php?category_id =10


Here's another option, although these guys don't have the "H8 kit" I see no reason for why the H11 kit would not work...
they may not be as cool as the Digital ones but the price is nice
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Baggermike
Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2008 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nick I went on that website and those are hid lights on that site but one bulb kits, plus expensive at around 200.00. The links I posted above were non digital for 140.00 for two H8 bulb kits, and the digital kit is also a two bulb kits at 450.00, so to do the whole bike would be 280 for non digital and 900 for digital in H8 bulbs, the price I seen on the website was like 200.00 for a one bulb kit, unless I read it wrong. I also think your idea is a good one, but if I were to go in with others I would want the digital sets, I can afford the non digital set, but want the digital ones and are quiet expensive, so I would get two sets of two for 900.00 and if I could save on this it would be worth while. Mike
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Baggermike
Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2008 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

check out www.starrotors.com they have H11 two bulb kits for 100.00 and can upgrade to digital for 25.00 and 7.00 shipping
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Baggermike
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Star rotors has hid H8 bulbs and the digital ones with the small box like 1/2" thick and about 3" square and cost 125.00 plus shipping for the two bulb digital kits, this is the best price I think I am going to find for digital so I know I will buy from them, and if anyone wants to go thru them and work a deal let get together soon to figure it out. Mike
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Killakella
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 05:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks everyone for your input. Now less than a month to wait.......

M.
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Helicon
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Alright, so this is probably a stupid question but what is the difference between digital and non-digital HID setups? Also, which bulb does the 1125R use ... H8? H11? etc...
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Ccryder
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 1125r uses the H8 bulbs for Hi and Low beams.

I think that the difference between the digital and non-digital is how they perform the functions of:
Generating the high voltage
Regulating the voltage
Regulating the current
Protecting the components

By using "digital" components they can reduce the size and include protection for low voltage and no lamp being attached.

Time2Work
Neil S.
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Baggermike
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I also read that digital puts out 15% more light and even light color so that one bulb will look like all the rest, also they warm up quicker and have the starter built in the smaller box which is easy to install in a bike. go on www.xtralights.com and there you can read the difference and advantages of the two. mike
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Ccryder
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike:

From Xenondepot the H11 kit includes:
This product will include:

2 x 5000k Laser Calibrated HID/Xenon Bulbs
2 x Xtreme HID Ballasts
2 x Complete Wiring Harnesses – 1 per side
Mounting Hardware
Complete Instruction Manual
Legitimate warranty
All for Sale Price: $224.99

Neil S.
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Helicon
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Neil, Mike, thanks for the answers. Every site I've gone to I have not seen H8 as an option ... is there an equivalent that we know will work?
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Nickcaro
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

helicon,

you should scroll up and look in to the archive of this thread. you may find all the answers that we have gathered up already.
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Baggermike
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The websites I posted have H8 bulbs, if you can not find them do a search on the website and if that does not work call, every website I posted has the H8 bulbs. Neil are those digital for that price and how long is the warranty. Mike
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Baggermike
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone know of strobe lights that could go into the 5 watt wedge bulb socket? I can get super bright leds and do turn signals there, or blue bulbs to match the blue look of the hid lights, or strobes that I would run in the daytime to be noticed
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Ccryder
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Helicon:
H8 and H11 are almost identical. Most sites offer the H11 and they can be used in place of the H8 w/o too much work.

Mike:
Xenondepot says:
Our XenonDepot & Xtreme HID lighting products are all covered by a one-year limited warranty against manufacturer defects, in which a manufacturer-defective part, in the kit and within the warranty period will be replaced at no additional charge. This Limited Warranty specifically excludes defects resulting from misuse, abuse, neglect, alteration, modification, improper installation, unauthorized repairs, submersion, theft, vehicle crash, or by any other type of impact.

Mike:
The 2 outboard lites are really just appearance lights/ marker lites. If you strobe them, your friendly LEO will be talking to you. If you make them blue, your friendly LEO may also be talking to you. If they are yellow/ amber or, white (even with a blue tint) you can get by with them all day long. This is based on 1st. hand experience on my ST1300.

I'm also asking Xenondepot if they will do a group buy.

Neil S.
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Baggermike
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Neil I know I had a headlight modulator fifty state legal and got harrassed by LEO twice. The last website I was on had digital hid H8 2 bulb kits for 125.00 and pretty sure they have a one year warranty to, but will check again and this is the site if you want to check www.starrotors.com . Mike
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Baggermike
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ebay has the H8 hid kit for the 1125R for 100 and you can upgrade to digital for 25 dollars but I have asked about there warranty and have not gotten a responce from them. Mike
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Baggermike
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

www.starrotors.com has H8 digital kits for 125.00 plus shipping and have a 12 month warranty, has anyone found a better deal than this before I order a set. Mike
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Ccryder
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All:

I got an e-mail from Starrotors:

If you can put together a group buy of 10 or more, I can do the digital kits for $115, and if 20 or more $110. That would be for 2 H8 bulbs (any color) 2 digital slim ballast, and all the necessary wiring.
-Rick
StarRotors.com

So what do you all think? He will knock $10 for 10 or more and $15 off for 20 or more. IMHO he has a great price to start so, I can understand the minimal cost reduction.

Neil S.
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Baggermike
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

that sounds good I want two sets four bulbs and will wait to see what happens before buying, does it matter what color temp you want? I have the 8000k in my ulysses and are super bright plus has a nice blue color. Mike
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Nickcaro
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hmmmmm....

its tempting, but honestly my only concern is quality. How good could these possibly be? Looks like they are the standard inexpensive ones on eBay, except that a US vendor has put their brand sticker on them. The best thing they have going for them is local customer service... that alone could be worth it..

I'm just having a tough time choosing between the very inexpensive ones and the kits from XenonDepot and Xtralights....
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Baggermike
Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the cheap ones are good, they are coming out with 50 watt hid lights and in a year they might also be cheap, and they just started to hit the market. I could go up to 10,000k to 12,000k which is not as bright and more blue to purple and give a nice custom look to the bike and be as bright as the 6000 to 8000k lights, I also like the fact the dash dims on the 1125R, late at night you dim your dash lights and you can see even further down the road, I have used this trick on cars, and I also tilt my mirrors down so cars from behind me do not blind me by there head lights reflecting in my mirrors, and if I need to look I just look down a little to see. Mike
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