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Jdugger
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has anyone tried them on their 1125r?

I'm almost ready for a tire change. I got just over 2k out of the Corsa III tires -- about what I get out of pilot powers.

I only ask because I've put Powers on my other bikes and I can think of no other tire I've loved so much. The bike turns in so fast on them, and the performance is so confident.

I've liked the Corsa III tires, but don't love them just yet. But wondering if I should switch out...
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Cataract2
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 11:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How many miles have you gotten out of the current tires on it?
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Jdugger
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They are just about to the wear indicators at just over 2k.
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Brad1445
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

U go dugger!!!!!!
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Doerman
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jim
I put Pirelli Strada on mine (1125R) and they seem to work just fine. I've only put 200 miles on the new tires so they are just barely scrubbed in, but seem fine. Point is a different tire will work fine. if you like the Powers, go for it.
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12r
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My R1 had Corsa IIIs as OE. They were pretty good in the dry but nothing special in the wet.

After using PPs on my Firebolt, for me there was no other choice when it was time to change.

The Michelins are simply better
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Baggermike
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pirelli has come out with a new tire so you might want to check them out, also can anyone recommend tires for extreme sport touring? I will be going on trips of more than 2000 miles and if you guys are only getting this from the tires I need something to last a little longer but still grip the road in dry and wet weather. Mike
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Jdugger
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> After using PPs on my Firebolt, for me
> there was no other choice when it was
> time to change.
>
> The Michelins are simply better

That's all I needed to hear. I'll try Powers next... They are cheaper, anyway.

I love that triangle profile to the powers. The bike just lays over so nimbly. I ran pilot powers on my VFR800 I like 'em so much!
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Jdugger
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> can anyone recommend tires for extreme
> sport touring

Not sure what bike you are talking about, but I have had the Avon Storm recommended to me as an excellent tire on the ST11/1300.

That's a big, heavy bike, but he is getting 6k out of the rear and said it sticks very well.

I've run Pilot Roads and Dunlop Sportmax, and for me, I'd rather find a dealer along the route and pay for a tire change so I could run Powers or Corsas than put one of the sport touring tires on the bike.
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Ccryder
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike:
The Conti Road Attacks should get you 7000-9000 miles. Or the Pilot Road 2s, should get you 8,000-12,000 miles. The Conti's I have on my 12r, even I can get my chicken strips down to 1/4"-3/8" without trying. PR 2s should almost be in the same league.

I'll just bet with 35%-50% more hp on the 1125 you will be able to toast any tire if you try hard enough (unless yours has traction control).

Neil S.
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Baggermike
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Neil, I would like to get a set of wheels so I can swap wheels and tires for the riding I do. I just seen a set of black wheels but did not have the money and did not know if regular Buell wheels will fit the 1125R. I still got plenty of tread left so it will be late spring before needing tires, I hope? Mike
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Spectrum
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike - The regular Buell XB wheels are what is on the 1125R. The only difference being the rear wheel is turned around so that the brake rotor and belt are on opposite sides.
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Baggermike
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Spectrum. Mike
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Krassh
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would use Michelin Pilot Roads for extreme Sport Touring. Excellent grip, Excellent wear, Excellent wet weather.
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Baggermike
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks guys I was looking at the Michelin pilot tires before and think now I will get them I also think I should buy a tire changer and ballencer to if I am going to be going through tires, aerostich has hand tools for doing this and last time I use the harley shop I think they scratched my rims. Mike
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Krassh
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike,
There is a difference between the Pilot Powers and Pilot Roads. The Roads are more of a sport touring tire, harder center, softer outer. If you get the Roads you will not be changing as often. I put Michelin Pilot Roads on my 2003 XB9S and before that Avon ST-45/46's the Michelin's changed that bike night and day. Where the Avon's never inspired confidence around corners and in wet weather the Michelin's did. Just my experience and opinion.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

THose Pilot Road 2 are supposed to be great in the wet, but I didn't see much claim to the dry in the corporate release publication. PLus I see alot of tread on the edge, which may affect dry grip at higher lean angles. From what I have seen, most high end sport tires are moving away from having much if any tread on the edges.

But I love the concept of the harder centers....
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Sheridan_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I, too, ran the Pilot roads on my XB9S. Simply the best all 'round tire ever. Awsome in the wet (which it's wet most of the time here) and pretty damned good dry. I usually got 2 rears out of one front, (around 8-10k miles on the rear). Not quite an even 2 but close enough. I'll be putting a set on my 'levin soon as these stockers wear out.

JJ
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Baggermike
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks JJ I ride in the rain and like the fact they are good in the rain and seen lean angles for them dry and wet and they lean over further than I would in the rain. Mike
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Buellnick
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pilot Power tires have a flatter profile. Pirellis are more rounded and thus - no sudden drop-off... The difference is in the contact patch. PP compound seems harder (because it is) and they do not build up heat as quick. You will have to experiment with pressures and PPs will probably need less pressure so that you can build some temperature. If you want traction above all else...

Anybody worn out their Corsa IIIs yet?

(Message edited by Buellnick on February 06, 2008)
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Doerman
Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 02:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep. Rear tire changed at 2400 miles front still has 1000 or so left.
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Sheridan_bueller
Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 02:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No problem Baggermike. They are not scary at all in the water. Even when they're pretty much slicks, (don't ask how I know)! Tough too! I once took a trip from Tillamook Oregon to Whidbey Island in Washington, about 4 hours ride counting the ferry ride from Port Townsend. Mind you, I wanted to test the durability of my first set to see how far they'd go in emergencies. (ya gotta know your limitations!) When I left Tillamook my rear tire (pilot road) had one spot almost to the cords. When I got back to Tillamook, there was nothing but cords around the circumference, plus one plug due to a small nail poke. I was impressed! I finished out that week and the next while waiting for my new set to show up, riding to work. Kevlar is awesome!!!! I'm a believer!

JJ
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Baggermike
Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks guys I think I am sold on the Michlen tires. I now have to figure out when I can afford the tire changing tools? aerostich has them and if anyone knows of a cheaper way to change tires and ballence them let me know? I know it will pay off in the long run, my son has a uly that needs a rear tire and we both have a blast that we use for short runs and bad weather and can use new tires. I have read the blast for some reason goes thru rear tires fast, I know that I need tire changing tools, plus I do not have a car to get them to the bike shop, plus the bike shop scratch my rims the last time on a bike I no longer have. Mike
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Jdugger
Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> Anybody worn out their Corsa IIIs yet?

Um, yea, what do you think started the thread? : )
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Bearly
Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike: I too got tired of having my rims scratched. I could either go the Harley stealership and $80 too much for a back tire then pay $93 dollars to change it. They were very good and did not scratch my wheels. I started going across the street to the Kawi shop. There I paid just $40 dollars too much for the tire and just $30 bucks to mount and balance. The trouble with that is that I would have to balance them again when I got home and my wheels would be scratched. With four motorcycles I decided that I could get a return on my investment even if I would buy an expensive machine.
I bought the NoMar Pro. Since then I've changed four tires on the Trailblazer and six motor cycle tires in the last six months. Who wants their wheels scratched? So if you calculate six motorcycle tire changes at $558 dollars plus the online savings of four new tires (2 were remounts on my new wheels) of $320 that a sub total of $878. Add in the Trail blazer saving of online purchase advantage and mount and balance of about $200 and you can see that I've have a large percentage of my $1520 (with shipping and all the extras) 2/3rds paid off in six months. Plus, my tires are very well balanced every time, because I can take the time to do it. I had a pratice bent Lightning wheel (thanks to the housemonster) that I've done eight changes on with not one scratch.
NoMar makes cheaper machines and packages, I just wanted to be able to change the occasional car tire. I figure by this time next year with a Uly tire change, and a couple on the 1125R, I have free tire changes from then on.
I did spend (waste) money on a Harbor Freight Tire changer. Do not buy this Chinese junk unless you ride a dirt bike.

To all:
I do see that the Corsa III's are cheaper than the Pilot Roads 2ct's by $11 at www.motorcyclesuperstore.com.
The are less than $146. Give me the sticky at what ever mileage.
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Baggermike
Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Bearly I had the harbor freight catalog right in front of me. Mike
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Bearly
Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Throw it down, run out of the house!
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Baggermike
Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did, just got back. Mike
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Sruzhyo
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok guys.

Pilot road's are the verdict?

Just noticed a nice big patch of threads in my Corsa's...what tire to change to??

I've gotten just over 4800 miles out of the Corsa's...So lots of riding, not thrashing the tires. What say you?
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