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Hondaamer
Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are those pipes stainless steel or are they going to be the same as my xb9r?
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2_wheels
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 07:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Part 1: How close is the exhaust to the rear wheel, and due to the heat of the exhaust, will the rear wheel be affected in any way. Especially in heavy stop and go summer traffic.

Part 2: With the exhaust pipes being so close to the frame, how will this affect the gas which is located in the frame.
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Coal400
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 08:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The pipes are stainless steel, as is the can (dogbone).
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Cataract2
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Part 1: How close is the exhaust to the rear wheel, and due to the heat of the exhaust, will the rear wheel be affected in any way. Especially in heavy stop and go summer traffic.

Part 2: With the exhaust pipes being so close to the frame, how will this affect the gas which is located in the frame.


These two were asked when the XB's came out. I can tell you, where the exhaust is it does not affect the rear wheel. I get 10,000 miles out of my rear.

Same as above.
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Funny thing I noticed on my XB12Ss the other day. I have those black nylon axle sliders from American Sport Bike. I noticed the left rear slider has faded to gray. I'm thinking that's because it is in the way of the exhaust gas flow. The other three sliders are still black like the day I installed them. So now I have an idea of the path the exhaust travels from the stock exhaust...
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Part 1: How close is the exhaust to the rear wheel, and due to the heat of the exhaust, will the rear wheel be affected in any way. Especially in heavy stop and go summer traffic.




Please . . . please . . . do not ask Erik Buell that question. They are still a little touchy at TüV.

: )
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Rfischer
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yah.....it's OK to route an exhaust where it roasts the rider's fanny, but not OK to put it where it might warm the tire a tad...

Jeesh!
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Spike
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know about the 1125R, but don't all XBs have stainless steel headers?
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Old_man
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All the XBs have stainless steel headers.
The mufflers are not.
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The mufflers are most definitely NOT stainless steel on the XBs. On a quiet night, if you let the bike sit in the garage and there's no wind blowing... you can almost HEAR the damn thing rusting...
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Coal400
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just in case, to spare any confusion, my previous post was referring to the 1125R
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Coal: We know.
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Coal400
Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just making sure...
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Trojan
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 04:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If the 1125 muffler is stainless steel, why oh why have they painted it black? Or is that just for the pre-production models?
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Killakella
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 04:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ditto, polished stainless would look awesome?
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Coal400
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, it is a rather large piece. Black will make it look more discrete.
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, it is a rather large piece. Black will make it look more discrete.

Bingo, plus it makes the welds less visible.
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Trojan
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, it is a rather large piece. Black will make it look more discrete.

I remember back in the early days when Buells came as standard with stainless steel mufflers and they looked great in plain unpolished silver. Black paint makes them look cheaper and suspiciously 'un-stainless' looking.
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Coal400
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would agree Trojan. On a smaller can, I think that stainless or polished would look better.
On the 1125R, a polished SS can would look like you ran over a Picasso sculpture.
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've seen a pic without the dog bone on and holly crap! There is a big diff! It isn;t the old tuber days when you took off the muffler you didn't notice it was missing until someone pointed it out. On the 1125 sans muffler it looks like a whole new bike...
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Every woman can tell you black is "slimming..."
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Rubberdown
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can you post a pic Spiderman?
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Dbird29
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





From Miller Motorsports Park.

They wouldn't let me take a picture of the muffler!
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Probably one of the most accurate shots of the Diamond Blue that I've seen yet...everything else I've seen makes it look black or purple. Good shot (I know. We're supposed to be looking at the lack-o-muffler...).
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Rubberdown
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmm, makes the pods look even bigger.
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well looks like I was wrong the 1125R muffler shell is double wall mild steel with proprietary high temp coating.

apparently to make it out of stainless woulda been far out of the question.

So don't go polishing your 1125 mufflers ya hear!
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Trojan
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well looks like I was wrong the 1125R muffler shell is double wall mild steel with proprietary high temp coating.

apparently to make it out of stainless woulda been far out of the question.

I thought so.

I can hear it rusting from here too....or have they tested it through a British winter with salt on the roads I wonder?
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is this damned phobia Buell has about stainless steel? Why are they the only motorcycle company still refusing to use it? I don't think it rates as rocket science!

Or is that how they supplement the initial relatively low cost of the bikes (by selling mufflers)?? I really want to know. This is the single most aggravating and annoying "feature" of Buell's products to me.
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is this damned phobia Buell has about stainless steel?

Do you know the metallurgical properties of stainless and how it reacts to hydroforming, machining, welding and how those inherit properties relate to price?
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Trojan
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do you know the metallurgical properties of stainless and how it reacts to hydroforming, machining, welding and how those inherit properties relate to price?

Every other manufacturer manages (both OEM & aftermarket) it these days so I can't see why Buell cannot do the same and give us a full stainless system. Micron Hydroform stainless steel all the time.

Mild steel exhausts on a £8500 bike in the UK is appalling, especially as Buell was giving us these in 2007 but can't do it now for some reason?.
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