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Dave_bogue
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is being done to alleviate the excessive footpeg heat mentioned by many 1125R riders on the pre-production bikes?
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Xb9
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I heard from a reliable source that this is being addressed and will be corrected on the production units. Additional shielding and/or reworked air flow/ducting.

This is one example of the advantages of running these test mules at the track days - feedback and correct before final production.

Of the three test mules I rode at Mid-Ohio -I only noticed the hot foot on one of them.
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Bob_thompson
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In one of the other threads someone has said that the heat is due to the catalytic converter heat in the muffler/exhaust system. Does anyone know if all states will have the converters or will this just be a California only use.
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Anonymous
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its not related to the cat, and the bikes will have shileding that eliminates the issue. Only CA and European bikes will have cats.
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Bob_thompson
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks much Anonymous, what a great bike and likewise a great forum. Hard to wait until spring here and finally a ride on my own 1125R. Riding my M2 as much as possible to be completely elated when the new one arrives. See you in the twisties.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ARG! At the dealer meeting at Mid Ohio on Tuesday they said ALL bikes (50 states and euro) are the same. ALL bikes will have the cat.

But the Anony's have said twice that this is not true.

I believe the Anony's.
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, I was told (by people in the know) at Liberty that CA models will have a small cat. Although Buell expects the bike to pass tough California emissions WITHOUT the catalytic converter, they aren't going to take any chances.

The CA cat is actually smaller than the one being put in Euro models.
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Anonymous
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...The CA cat is actually smaller than the one being put in Euro models...

Not True. Same CAT for all mufflers that need one.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If these bikes are cat equipped, how will they respond to catnip? Would tuna juice be considered an octane booster? What happens if a squirrel runs out across the road?

Just wondering.

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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ask me about microwaving cats for fun and profit.

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Coal400
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ha!
Hey now, I realize Rats are not that fond of felines, but I love my cat.
She's a fantastic pet that actually listens, knows tricks; acts pretty much like a dog really.
The problem with most cats out there is their owners. A cat is smart enough to be disciplined.

All that being said, how much do you charge? I've got some neighborhood "wanderers" that I'd like to take care of. : )
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ah! Then I was misinformed! Don't worry, I won't rat out the Kansan that gave me that information...

Or have I said too much already?
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Ponti1
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, now that the 1125R is rolling off the production line, can anyone reveal what changes were made after gathering input/data from Laguna Seca and/or all the Inside Pass functions?
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Anonymous
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

See if you can spot part of the solution in the pictures! Mid bike right side. There were other changes as well but they aren't visible.
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Rsh
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Exhaust heat remedy:

Is it that black plastic piece to the above left of the clutch cover and left of the rear cylinder exhaust pipe. This is from looking at pic number 11 in the photo gallery.
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Unibear12r
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd say Rsh nailed it.
Not a part of the heat solution but it does appear that the clutch cover changed just a bit. Also early photos showed a black pipe heat shield and now it's the same color as the pipe.
But... maybe this is just a matter of perspective but I think the muffler has changed. Same general shape but a bit smaller all round and tucked in better. Perhaps a slight shape change to to front of the pipe too? Anyway it does seem to be a noticeable improvement.
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Ponti1
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm glad you guys could spot that stuff...I'm on a temporary computer while I rebuild my desktop, and this stupid laptop only has a 14" screen. I can't make out any of the details.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

0.o 14" screen? I haven't seen one in 10+ years. I'll go back to salivating over my 30" : )
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, November 02, 2007 - 06:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A 30" monitor? Hell, that's bigger than the TV set in my living room!
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Cobralightning
Posted on Friday, November 02, 2007 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was just checking out the photos also. It looks like the radiator hoses are rerouted. On the right side one of the hoses goes forward and the other goes up and to the rear. On the track day photos it looks like both of the hose go towards the front and up. And I saw that with only a 19 inch monitor.
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Spectrum
Posted on Friday, November 02, 2007 - 08:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Comparing to previous photos the only thing I see different is a larger heat shield on the rear cylinder pipe.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Friday, November 02, 2007 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All I can see is what Rsh and Cobralightning saw. A new heat shield behind the rear cylinder and re-routed coolant lines. The perspective in Pic 11 and the side shot (spiderman) put in the muffler thread are a little different, but it does look like the muffler is a little smaller.

http://buell.com/en_us/bikes/sportbike/1125r/rollo ut.asp pics 11 and 23

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/315570.html?1193666492 second archive page - first post

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Court
Posted on Friday, November 02, 2007 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Yes, I was told (by people in the know) at Liberty that CA models will have a small cat. Although Buell expects the bike to pass tough California emissions WITHOUT the catalytic converter, they aren't going to take any chances.

The CA cat is actually smaller than the one being put in Euro models."




Jaime. . . that was 100% correct when you were told. Things, in this first ever, "let the end users drive the last 1%" effort were in flux.



quote:

Same CAT for all mufflers that need one.




That's currently accurate information. Likely would have passed CARB without but with no performance penalty . . . why take the risk.
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