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Ironken
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Fischer looks like it was assembled out of Legos. I would like to buy 2 of them...one to shit on and one to cover it up with.
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Bobup
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

looking at the Fisher.....looks like you can take a dump without having to dismount !!! IMHO
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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like the Fischer.

I also like the Superduke, in black/gray. Looks like dung in orange, IMO.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hate the looks of the 'Busa. The ZX14 is equally appalling.

I like function, but I do believe strongly that looks matter. If not, we'd all be riding VStroms. Great bike at a great price. Ugly as my dog's bung hole.

I am absolutely certain that there will be those who dislike the looks of the 1125R.

I am absolutely certain that there will be those who love the looks.

I am absolutely certain that there will be a crap load of people who won't care what it looks like once they get to ride it.

Are we all really going to get our panties in a bunch over every single negative article on the 1125R?
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Etennuly
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I bought my first Buell, an early '05 City-X I used to park it in my yard in a pose like setting. To me it was a very functional piece of art. I loved to look at how the engineering fit into a framework of design that was as amazing to look at as it was to ride. I rode it 13,000 miles in just over a year.

I bought my Uly and it doesn't get admired in the same way. It seems that I only get to see it from the seat, or walking up to it to get on it. I did 19,000 miles in the same amount of time.

That is how I see the asthetics' of a motorcycle. Function with form. Motorcycles are so much like finding the right woman. I've had the beautiful sexy motorcycle that looked fun to ride but it was barely functional and it was a true bitch to live with. The 1125r? It looks great from here, but I will reserve my full opinion until I get to test ride one.
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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are we all really going to get our panties in a bunch over every single negative article on the 1125R?

You know they will....
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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The SuperDuke won the MOTY in Motorcyclist. Not all of them liked the looks, but the performance was universally loved.

Puts to rest the theory that the bike has to be the best on the stat sheet and in the beauty department to gain acclaim in the American sportbike press. Fun and usability on the street still counts for something.

If the 1125 performs as we keep hearing it will, it should get great reviews. I sure hope so.

(Message edited by spatten1 on August 16, 2007)
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hope that people are thrown off by the looks. I hope they find it unusual enough that they overlook it.

I prefer to keep our bikes in the hands of people who buy bikes that work, that perform like no others.

If I find an 1125R in the hands of some marginally skilled (and I ain't no Rossi) kid wearing a race replica helmet, flip flops and a wife beater slow waddling it around the parking lot because it the bike looks "cool", I think I will become ill.

I'd like it to remain a little bit exclusive. I want people to work to want it.
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Trojan
Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 05:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Form does not necessarily follow function, and it is relatively rare to find a machine that looks great and performs just as well. Concord, The Spitfire, pretty much all Ducati Sports bikes, Ferrari and Jaguar cars are notable exceptions.

I think that the 1125 is certainly 'stylistically challenged' in some respects, but so are most bikes in one regard or another. That is what the aftermarket is for isn't it?
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Vagelis46
Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 06:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think that the problem here is that people are very negative for the design of the 1125R, without having seen it.

When I first saw the 1125R I thought "I do not like it".

Now I really, really like it. Its design grows on you.

How can someone say that the bike is ugly, only judging from the photos?

Also, I really like the idea of the 1125R being the "beast", while the 1098 ( + others) being the "beauty".
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Sarodude
Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think it's GREAT that there are passionate people in this field. So someone thinks the 1125R is the ugliest thing since the floater they deposited this morning at the porcelain altar. BFD. At least they care enough to have an opinion.

In the case of Kerr (haven't followed his career or anything) if the guys natural bend goes away from where Buell's goes (a number of comments here would seem to indicate that to be the case) then he's just sticking to his own tastes and opinions.

And Buell has on occasion fuglified a couple of bikes. Seriously. I mean, that Helmholtz breadbox....... Function - yes. Obviously necessary for power and EPA.

Let's just get over it. It's one schmuck's opinion. He's entitled to it.

Ya know what's ugly to me? Any Monster with the two low and wide exhaust cans.

Damn you, Erik Buell! How DARE you not stick the exhaust where it shouldn't be!!!

Coffee. I think I need coffee.

-Saro
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86129squids
Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where's Too Much Coffee Man when you need him?



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Mikej
Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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86129squids
Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWSUMMMMMMM!!!!

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Buellshyter
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 08:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm well read, too

Opinions are like a-holes - everyone has one
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Jimidan
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jaimec:

I kinda like the look of the Fischer myself. Except for the self-emasculating look of that gas tank. Better hope you don't have to stop too quickly...

But if you do and the inevitable occurs (ouch!!!), then there is a nice little trough built into the seat to let 'them' roll on out the back of the bike.

One thing is obvious to me is that both the Fischer and the 1225R dared to be different in the design department, but the Buell is a whole lot better looking (and more conventional) than the Fischer...but that is just one man's stupid opinion.

It really is kinda 'stupid' to argue over the totally objective subject of looks, which is all in the head of the observer.
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Firemanjim
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's an 1125 for Petes sake!!
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Jimidan
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's an 1125 for Petes sake!!

No fire here, Jimbo...just a typo. Forgive them for they have sinned!}
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2kx1
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the success of any bike is more
about how it works then how it looks
Hyabusa
ZX14
999
All three of these will work their asses
off, none of them really look good,
however I really like the 999 though
because I know it works. As far as what Glynn Kerr says ,It doesn't really matter
as I haven't seen his bike yet only some parts,the guy putting it together is
cool though.
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Calidrew
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Seen it. Sat on it. First inline to own it at the local Harley Chromason dealer. I should have one or two chances to ride it before delivery. First at Willow Springs and second at Laguna Seca. I expect it to fly and make me feel like a superman. Only 2 flies in the ointment.
1. Wife loves Buells and Buellers and is thinking about joining the fray with a class M license and a CityX.
2. I'm a subprime mortgage banker and, well, you watch the news, right?
The old M2 still serves every purpose from track bike to commuter to two-up sport touring. Even had to stop and wait for one of the Ulyboys on an Enduro run on the way to Laguna this year. Tee hee hee. I love that I learned to ride on the dirt 40 years ago.
The heck with it, if baby wants a new CityX we'll just have to figure out a way to also get Daddy a new 1125R this year. I didn't set out to become a Bueller, but that Eric just sucks you in.
*Note* Shameless plug-Al at American Sport Bike has helped with the transformation to carve the diamond out of the lump of carbon I bought back in 2000.
One other note for Eric Buell. We hate taking our Buells to Harley dealers, because they are stuck up idiots, to put it kindly. (Last year TWO of them put turn indicators on my M2 upside down.)
How about a warranty choice. Either the standard two year parts and labor OR five year parts only. Frankly I think you'll have fewer failures having Buellers turning wrenches in your babies.
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Jimidan
Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 08:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Calidrew sez:

The heck with it, if baby wants a new CityX we'll just have to figure out a way to also get Daddy a new 1125R this year.

Just get one of those sub-prime loans...I hear they are giving them away these days! I dunno, it seems like for me to be giving a banker advice on how to buy two motorcycles is kinda like a fish trying to ride a bicycle.
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Spatten1
Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

. Wife loves Buells and Buellers and is thinking about joining the fray with a class M license and a CityX.

Time for a new hobby dude.

How about a warranty choice. Either the standard two year parts and labor OR five year parts only. Frankly I think you'll have fewer failures having Buellers turning wrenches in your babies.

Never happen....but the best damn idea I've ever heard in my life. I'd have saved $$$$$ and been a much happier Bueller.
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Crusty
Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The SuperDuke won the MOTY in Motorcyclist

So did the Suzuki Tempter 650. Now that was a significant motorcycle.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I personally didn't pass the V-Strom over because of its looks. I have no problem with how it looks. It just runs like a refrigerator. You can't feel what the engine is doing, the suspension is complete CRAP. It bounces and pogos around like the forks are make of noodles and the shock has a spring from a ball point pen on it. The seating position puts you down "into" the bike versus being "on" the bike, and the dang windshield is so far out in front of you that the turbulence is terrible. The wheelbase is reminiscent of an stretch limo and the balance is very top heavy. The fact that it runs skinny ass, odd sized, tires doesn't help either.

If it had a little cammier motor (like the one from the TLR), was "mass centralized", had a nice suspension, a shorter wheelbase, and you could fit decent tires on it. Then I'd be riding a V-Strom. Can't beat it for the money.
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Thespive
Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If it had a little cammier motor (like the one from the TLR), was "mass centralized", had a nice suspension, a shorter wheelbase, and you could fit decent tires on it. Then I'd be riding a V-Strom. Can't beat it for the money.

That's called a Buell! ;)

--Sean
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 02:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How about a warranty choice. Either the standard two year parts and labor OR five year parts only. Frankly I think you'll have fewer failures having Buellers turning wrenches in your babies.

Interesting idea. Just wondering on the 5 year plan, how it would be determined what parts would be deemed necessary for a repair? I don't think that Buell would just take your word...and if you have to get a Buell/HD tech to look at it, well now you run into a labor issue.
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M1combat
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"It's an 1125 for Petes sake!!"

It's "For Pete's sake." for Pete's sake : ).
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Jimidan
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"It's an 1125 for Petes sake!!"

It's "For Pete's sake." for Pete's sake.


Not if you are a Hells Angel!
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