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Chadr81
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 12:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They look identical. Looks like they just turned the rear rim around so the belt is on the other side. Do you think the 1125r uses the same rims as the XB's? Would be kind of nice if they were interchangeable!
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Ii25r
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 01:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I see various colored rims in the videos
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Chadr81
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 02:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've noticed amber rims on it during the videos too. Would make sense if they kept using the same rims, but who knows... I've seem weirder things!
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Kenneth
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Especially if you have a couple thousand dollars worth of magnesium wheels for an xb
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Ryker77
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

rear rim - belt is on the other side. unless the wheel is just turned around.
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Anonymous
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Same wheels, front and rear, as XB.
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Chadr81
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's awesome!! Thanks Anon.
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Teddagreek
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

MADE IN CHINA
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wow im glad they finally cleared that up because i really wanted to know that. Now all they need is to make the wind screens to match like they do for the firebolts.
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M1combat
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"MADE IN CHINA"

What's your point? Chinese people are cool...

Not a big fan of their government but that'll change : ).
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Chadr81
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was wondering about the "Made in China" comment too. There are some good things that come out of that country... Like Buell XB rims!!
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Jkhawaii
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 03:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So the rear wheel must just be flipped around so the brakes are on the other side
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Chadr81
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 03:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's what I'm guessing. It really makes sense... one less part they had to worry about making for the new bike. The XB rims are already the best, why waste the time trying to make them better! Again, good job Buell!!
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Donutclub
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 06:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Who cares about something being made in China!

Santa Claus is Chinese. Everything is made in China these days. It's the American way..........er, just plain economics.
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Teddagreek
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Who cares about something being made in China!


*Having worked in Manufacturing I do.

*Having bought Expensive tools only to have them take a crap I do.

*Having the Quality of products go down while the price remains the same if not higher I do.

*Yes I realize were in a global economy but IMO Quality of chinese products is shit for the most part.

I'm sorry if I offended any one who enjoys their money going to the Communist Party of China..
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Elvis
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not aware of any quality issues with the XB wheels.

If we are concerned with true quality rather than politics, there could be no better news than that these wheels are being made by a proven manufacturer from a proven design and buell has a history and baseline regarding these wheels.

When it comes to quality there are much more important variables than country of origin.

How would any of us feel to know that a US company - who normally makes T-Shirts - will now be making the wheels for the 1125R? Would we expect better quality from that US manufacturer than the manufacturer who has been making the wheels for the past 6 years just because they are a US manufacturer?
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Teddagreek
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When it comes to quality there are much more important variables than country of origin
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Jrreed
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At least once a week there is an article in the Wall Street Journal on how the Chinese are F'n up something. The latest (last week) was toxic levels of lead in children's jewelry. Why use lead? Because they said it was the cheapest material to use.
(I know there are exceptions but)For the most part, the Chinese put profit way ahead of safety and quality. And they are also master knock-off artists.
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Luxor
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When did they go to china for the wheels?

I swear the wheels on my 2003 9S are Enki. Made in Japan, not China.

Anyway, VERY COOL that the 1125 wheels are XB variants.

(Message edited by luxor on July 16, 2007)
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Anonymous
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They are Enkei wheels, but Enkei opened a plant in China and that is where these are made. It is a Japanese constructed and managed facility with very high wages for China, and lots and lots of quality control. Enkei felt that the best way not to lose business to cheap Chinese knock offs was to establish a strong position there and enforce quality, etc. Not a bad idea. The stuff from there is superb, and they are fanatical about the quality. I think doing this type of business with China is the best possible way to bring them into the world economy smoothly.
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Luxor
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Annon, thanks for the info: ). I have always like the quality of Enkei wheels, and if they are made using skilled, well paid labor I am all for it.
Ran them on custom beetles back in the day: ). Always thought it quite cool(Pun, bad) my air cooled bikes use the same wheels as my air cooled cars: ): ).

(Message edited by luxor on July 16, 2007)
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Ducxl
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would've preferred my brother Americans at "Performance Machine" had made the rims.To their credit,at least BMC is manufacturing the frames here in the USA.

*miserableness deleted*
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Ducxl
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And they are also master knock-off artists.

patent law is meaningless in a communist society.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's a trade off. Sourcing parts where there can be some cost containment helps to keep the product price affordable and market viable. How attractive would the 1125R be if it cost 25% more?

I had the same conversation with a guy a couple of weeks ago complaining about how Harley Davidsons are no longer for the "working" man.

I don't know what the answer is. The US is moving away from an industrial base. Has been for years. China, Korea, and India are becoming more technical and industrial. As these economies grow, product demand will grow as well. Costs will rise as will wages.
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Mcgiver
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Made in China", "There are some good things that come out of that country", Hell yea, I love Chinese Food! Brian
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Jrreed
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mmmmmmmmm honey chicken! Awesome!
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Chadhargis
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good info. Since I already have an extra set of wheels for doing track days...it's nice to know they will fit on the new bike.

Is the belt sprocket the same size as the other XBs?
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Chadr81
Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hell yea, I love Chinese Food
Great! I'm sitting at work craving Chinese food now!!
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>I think doing this type of business with China is the best possible way to bring them into the world economy smoothly.

That's an accurate statement. One of the world's Buell fanatics and Land Speed Record holders, Paul Rogers owns a firm and spend lots of time in China.

Most of what you read about Chinese manufacturing is pure hogwash.

We will, in our lifetime, witness a sea-change in the world economy. Those on the high road have blue skies ahead.

Of note is that one of the largest new factories in China has a very large bar and shield on the front of the building.

I've shared before that in my business, building large power plants, that a significant part of our purchases, like $40,000,000 turbines and large transformers all come from China.

It was interesting, while our firm was building the Astoria Energy 500MW plant, to see "MADE IN CHINA" on the side of the General Electric turbines.

It's a new world.


Court
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's interesting to note that much of the same complaints we now hear against Chinese manufacturing are repeats of what we heard some thirty to fifty years ago, but concerning Japan.

I'm convinced that Communism won't survive capitalist success.
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