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Buellistic
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"WELL", why not ???

In BUELLing
LaFayette
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Weight.

Lean angle.

No lower frame.

Muffler in the way.

These are just guesses, of course....
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cause they're fugly and excessively opulent.

Same people who want one camp with a coffee grinder and a Bodum.

I prefer the removable kind:



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Mortarmanmike120
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FB... what the hell's a bodum?? Doesn't sound good.

No center stand for all the reasons stated above. I still consider a kick stand a luxury.
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Cycleaddict
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

seein' as there is no chain to lube .... a centerstand has lost some of it's importance.
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

check the 80's I think sportbikes left em back there...
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bodum:



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Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gone with mullets.
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 01:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL : )
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 04:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

THe only experience I have with a center stand is some scooter at last years CW show in San Mateo. I found it a pain in the ass to rock that thing back onto the center stand. I certainly wouldn't want to do it with a bike that probably weighs twice as much.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My early eighties vf1000f interceptor is the last sport bike I can remember having a center stand on...and I promptly
removed it to keep from levering the rear tire off the ground after a close call on Mt. Palomar.


You REALLY don't want one on a bike that leans as hard as sport bikes do in the twisties.
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Jimidan
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

General...did you really post this twice? Twice the post...twice the abuse. They just haven't seen the light about your "product improvements" have they?
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

MAYBE people knowing that Buell employees are frequenting the board has something to do with "second" efforts. Some posted a request for self-canceling turn signals twice as well.....
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45_degrees
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are some nice sport bikes (not super sport) that have center stands. Suzuki Bandit and Kawasaki ZR-7 come to mind. My ZR leans a lot... I ride it aggressively (no chicken strips on a 160 rear) and it has never touched the centerstand to road. I love it on this bike and I like them in general. Not saying the 1125R needs one, but they are nice and the Ulysses should have one, but it would be difficult to fit one on a Buell. They are really nice especially when the ground is not good for just a kickstand (uneven or soft). They are great when touring and you have a lot of gear and weight piled on your bike. I never use the kickstand under those situations, because you can't trust it as much.

One last thing... if you are familiar with how to properly put a bike onto it's centerstand, it's not difficult, even on heavy bikes with gear on them. They make working on the bike in emergency situations (like changing a blown tire, etc.) much easier when you forgot to pack your removable-type with you like the one pictured above. : )

I understand where Buellistic is coming from.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...And I agree with 45_degrees - the Uly should have one available or standard. The 1125? Doesn't seem to fit the intended use quite as much. I think spools (see the spool thread) are a good idea for the racers (and the poseurs like me, LOL).
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, I kinda figured I was doing something wrong when I was trying to use that center stand for the first time. My thoughts were "There is NO way this could be this hard." I was right no doubt.
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45_degrees
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fresno- The best way lift them up onto the stand is to stand off to the side while pushing down on the centerstand foot pad and holding the handle bar with your left hand and lifting on the bike (usually if it has a centerstand, it has a convenient hidden grab bar for doing this). It'll just rock right up onto the stand with minimal effort. You were right, they shouldn't be difficult. : )

Hey I just remembered that a bike I really like has a centerstand too... the Yamaha FZ1! I've been wanting one of those really bad! Now, I want an 1125R too! : (
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, so you are supposed to get off the bike first, then pull back onto the center stand?
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45_degrees
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, but you can do it either way... staying on the bike is much more difficult because you aren't really lifting so much as trying to keep your foot down on the stand and yanking back on the handlebars.
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Jasonk
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...proper lifting technique is the key to success. I was able to teach my 115lb. wife how to lift my 877lb. (dry weight) Goldwing onto the center stand. She told me there was no way in hell she was putting it up, imagine her surprise when, with minimal effort, she popped it right on, first try. It is more balance than grunt. No chain on the 'Wing, but it was always nice and easy to work on that thing, when it was up in the air.
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Buellistic
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For you GENTLEMEN that are worried about "WEIGHT" !!!

For every 12 pounds(including Rider BODY weight)you get 1(ONE) free rolling "HORSE POWER" that does not show up on a "DYNO" !!!

Going "RACING", by all means remove the CENTER STAND(do not forget the JEFFY STAND) !!!

In BLASTing
LaFayette

(Message edited by buellistic on July 26, 2007)
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Diablobrian
Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd always heard the figure as being 7lbs:hp, but I could be wrong.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is that wheel pounds, or crankshaft pounds? LOL!
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Jimidan
Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

fresno sez:

MAYBE people knowing that Buell employees are frequenting the board has something to do with "second" efforts. Some posted a request for self-canceling turn signals twice as well.....

and I got twice the abuse to show for it!
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