| Author | Message | ||
     Jfox |
Nice bike but the engine must be made in the us for me to consider it AMERICAN. Will all Buells use foreign engines from now on? If we wanted an aprilia we could have had one years ago.And if we compare head to head with other FOREIGN bikes it is 25 HP short of latest suzuki GSXR 1000.No one wanted Harley Davidson to build a competitive sport bike more than I | ||
| Spiderman |
hmm V-Twin vs a IL4... I wonder why the bike with two more cylinders has more HP? Maybe an annony can chime in?  | ||
| Indy_bueller |
The 1125R wasn't designed to go against the GSXR1000, or any other inline four cylinder. If it was, it would have a four cylinder engine. | ||
| 45_degrees |
It is a Buell designed engine. Where it's built... doesn't really matter too much. A twin with this much power is impressive. More torque than GSXR1000 and more useable too. | ||
| Court |
Is it me or does it seem odd that a fellow who rides an Italian Bimota suddenly signs up on a Buell board, armed with few facts (the Helicon motor has nothing to do with anything previously built) and decries Buell as essentially "un-American". I also see he inspects turbines. . . I just bought 6 huge turbines, pictures of which I have previously posted, and all are clearly marked "MADE IN CHINA". Just seems odd . . . but I'm sure we'll be getting both an earful and a plausible explanation. P.S. - someone want to share with him where most the HD parts (suspension, brakes and so forth . . . as well as 96%+ of those 14,000 P&A items come from?? (Message edited by court on July 18, 2007) | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Don't let the door hit ya! So when the engine gets built here, you'll come back? | ||
| Teddagreek |
The Frame for the 1125r is now made in the US and not Italy like the XB's. Not to beat a  The only thing that really bothers me is the wheels on XB's and 1125r are made in china.. | ||
| Chadhargis |
Don't feed the trolls!  | ||
| Jiffy |
You can't just buy American anymore. It is almost non-existent. We live in a global economy. Does all the gas you put in your American made vehicle come from the U.S.? I highly doubt it. | ||
| Bigeasy |
This thread is a waste of time. What exactly where you.....ah forget it. See ya. | ||
| Jfox |
There are no turbine aircraft engines made in china. I did not list all of my bikes and true I do not own a Buell [I do own a Harley]I only listed the Bimota. The fact that I have a Bimota and want a Buell is a good thing. I just dont want a foreign one. Also Iam well aware of the japanese components on Harleys and dont much care them.I am sorry court is taking this so personal. | ||
| Court |
>>>I am sorry court is taking this so personal. I am not taking this personal. You facts were wrong, I corrected them. By the way, I owe you a big thanks. I was to be at Grand Central at 6:00PM last night, sent my wife a note that I was leaving the office, started to leave and read your post. You'll see that, after the writing and hitting "enter" part of the deal, my reply was at 6:00pm, 3 minutes after the explosion that had pieces of pavement falling for 10 minutes. I'd have been standing on that corner. It was a LONG walk home last night with the cabs taken and the trains shut down . . . but thanks. P.S. - Did I mention that the New York City subways are made my Kawasaki and Bombardier? It gets scarier, in the next 5 years, New York City (who sucks up something like 18% of the Crown Vic output for cop cars and cabs ( we actually get a special 4" longer version for cabs) is going all Hybrid . . the first Toyotas are already zooming about! | ||
| Davegess |
jfox, no one in America is at this point able to produce that motor in an effective manner. Cost is just ONE of the things considered. As the frame illustrates Buell will source things in the US when they can even going so far as to find and work with companies to allow them to expand there abilities and allow Buell to bring pieces back home. And it is NOT FAIR to call it a Roatx motor. It was designed to Buell specifications and is essentially more of a Buell design than the current XB motors are. It is not an engine designed for someone else and then pulled off the shelf. When we see all the technical details, I am thinking Kevin Cameron has already written the piece, we are going to be amazed by all the neat stuff in this engine. (Message edited by davegess on July 19, 2007) | ||
| Patrickh |
I don't post too much, but I have been hanging around this board a long time. In fact I have actually been hanging around longer than the almost 6 years my profile indicates. People are entitled to their opinions, and I know that there may be some people out there who don't like what I have to say. I almost never have anything bad to say about another persons post, but this guy Jfox's opinions aggravate me for some reason. I have owned 5 other types of bikes since I bought my first Buell. I have sold every one of them since but hung on to my M2, "Betty" as my wife likes to call her. IMO it is an almost perfect street bike. Comfortable, sweet handling and soulful. I held off buying an XB because they were just a little too small for my 6'3" 270 lb frame, even though I really wanted one. The new TT had me very close to buying, until I saw the 1125R. I have always wanted Erik to put a nice strong motor in one of his chassis. I am not greedy, but I felt a good 110- 120 RWHP would be great. Now he has done it. I, like many of you out there, have been a real Buell enthusiast for quite a while. I always look forward to the new model years to see what is coming out next. I enjoy keeping up with peoples opinions when they post here because most of them have a lot of value. I don't really think that the negative spewings of a guy (or girl) who joined the board two days ago, for the express purpose slamming Buell's decision to use a Rotax motor, should generate any attention. Unless I need to be corrected, I thought Erik Buell has always built bikes that he would like to ride, and there are a good number of us out there who really think he knows what he is doing. It's okay if other people don't get it, I would just prefer they not show up here to air some dirty laundry, and then disappear forever. | ||
| Thespive |
Wow, BadWeb save lives, Blake where are you!?! Glad you were on here and not there Court. Those longer Crown Vics are based on the Town Car L and only available for fleet consumption. I wonder how New York will do when they realize battery life sucks in the cold months, oh well. Don't get me started on hybrids, or even ethanol (what a scam) for that matter. but I digree, back to your normal regularily scheduled thread. --Sean | ||
| Elvis |
. . . uhhhhh, JFox, you do realize that if your profile is correct, you're probably the only person posting on this thread who doesn't own a bike with an American engine, don't you? 8 of 9 models Buell will make in 2008 will have engines made in the USA, so are we to assume you will buy one of those 8 models? As you'll see, if you read through many of these threads, most Buell owners are pretty bright, so I don't think Buell or any of us will be particularly disappointed if you don't join the ranks. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
I would really hold all reservations about the bike until I have ridden it. I am sure the magazines will have their say, but I have never bought anything on their recommendation anyways. I want some seat ride time on it. come october, the roads are still nice  | ||
| Anonymous |
Don't feed the import-buying troll! | ||
| Djkaplan |
The original Buell was a European based engine in a homegrown chassis. | ||
| Two_buells |
Get over it! Buy the new Buell or don't buy it! (more for me) To all in Easy Troy.... Thanks for the 11 years of Smiles and the ones to come! Great job on the 1125R, can't wait to ride one! (I already know the motor is great)  | ||
| Two_buells |
   (Message edited by blake on July 19, 2007) | ||
| Two_buells |
try again | ||
| Paint_shaker |
Elvis wrote; "As you'll see, if you read through many of these threads, most Buell owners are pretty bright..." I never claimed to be bright... I just like loud obnoxious, naked, in your face motorcycles!!! | ||
| Jfox |
I am Troll because I want a US made bike ? I want to sell the bimota [SB6] and join the Buell team.The XB doesn't quite have enough oomph.I Am just dissapointed they couldn't get THE 1125 built here. I own a an FXRS BECAUSE it is made in the US,And because New York sends their tax dollars to Japan does'nt mean we should.What if 1125 had a honda engine would you still buy one. | ||
| Anonymous |
Sorry we didn't have enough money to build a new plant here to make you happy and to hire enough engineers to complete the design. It has a unique Buell engine, built by Rotax to our design specifications. How the heck is that like putting a Honda in it? Claiming that is being a troll. | ||
| Teddagreek |
Rotax has been building motors for 80 years and is very successful, building over 6 million motors. They have some of the worlds best engineers who along with buell designed a motor to buells specs.. Motors are made in Austria.. Dude, I really don't get your point its not like the thing is made in china or something | ||
| Jfox |
It was just a question and you didn't answer it. I will answer and the answer is no . I don't like Hondas.and I own one.I like buell and want you to succeed. Why is it wrong to want it to continue to be made in the us.? | ||
| Iamike |
I just don't understand why it's so important to beat a GSXR1000 or Busa or whatever? I bought a Blackbird 1 year after I bought my S3. Funny thing, I sold it to my son because I never rode it. Sure it was fast but I never went over 130 on it, no need to. It wasn't nearly as comfortable or fun to ride as the Buell. It sat in the garage collecting dust most of the time. I'm guessing the 1125R will be more like my S3. | ||
| Curtyd |
"Is it me or does it seem odd that a fellow who rides an Italian Bimota suddenly signs up on a Buell board..." Do you know how many guys actually ride and own Bimotas? NOT MANY... half a chance nothing about this guy is for real anyhow, gotta love the internet, people can pretend they are actually somebody! | ||
| Ridrx |
}What if 1125 had a honda engine would you still buy one. No comparison as the Helicon is available in exactly ZERO other bikes of any make, model, brand or country of origin. It is a Buell motor, not some stolen or borrowed place holder from another anything. I own a an FXRS BECAUSE it is made in the US, Every last part huh? |
