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Buell2001b
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

is it me or is something going on behind the scenes.
doesn't the 1098 ducati look about 90% from the front to the XB12R Buell!

doesn't the 1125R Buell look about 90% from the front to the 749 Ducati!

am i the only one that noticed this
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)







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Cgocifer
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, not seeing any similarities with the 749. The 1098 is completely different IMO. A motorcycle will always have somewhat of a similar shape when compared to another motorcycle. Not much to work with. Two wheels, a tank (or airbox), an engine, and a seat.
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Buellshyter
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I must need glasses. I'm not seeing it.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I do notice a similarity of the 1098 headlights to an XBR's.
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Vanvideo
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I may be the only person in America who likes the styling of the Ducati 749 better than the 1098. For whatever reason the 1098 just never grew on me. Maybe it's because I know I can't afford one, so why bother?
The 1125R is a whole different animal. I can't wait to see one of those up close.
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Chessm
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i was thinking more like r1



but id bet its really more a byproduct of what form works best in the name of aerodynamics that copying some other design.
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Kowpow225
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 1125 headlights screamed 916 to me. Maybe their 'flat' arrangement.
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Kowpow225
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


916
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Ithaca280
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not seeing many similarities, must be you. I'll take the Buell.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have been asked many times if my firebolt is the "new Ducati" meaning the 1098. That is in part due to my full fairings.

So it isn't only a few of us, it is a lot of the public in general that sees a similarity between the firebolt and the 1098.
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Cgocifer
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the majority of the misinformed public think that anything that doesn't sound like an in line 4 must be a Ducati.

BTW, I think the 1098 is the most beautiful sport bike to hit the road since the 916/996/998 series. Of course I like Buells and all bikes for that matter. If I could afford one, I'd have a 1098 in my garage right next to my 12S.

(Message edited by cgocifer on July 20, 2007)
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12r
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 03:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ducati's designers have acknowledged they had an R1 with them when they were styling the 1098.
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Buellistic
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DUCATI, Making MECHANICs out of RIDERs
since 1946 !!!


In BUELLing
LaFayette
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Chasespeed
Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

916/996/998 series

Dont forget the 748, identical, except the engine size...

I have only ever used the word "Sexy" to describe to things... well, not woman...

67-69 Camaro

And the bove mentioned series Ducati's....

I got QUITE proficient at Desmo maintnance..

Chase}
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Vagelis46
Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looking at the 1125R and the 1098 photo at the same page, makes the Buell look ugly.

I wish they do something to balance the front and the rear end of the bike,and the radiators to be part of the design, not just standing out . The front end might be aerodynamic but is definately too high up and too forward, making the bike looking big-headed.

Maybe the bike will look better in person, but I doubt it. It is a pitty a new designed bike, 1125R, to look worse than the previous model the XB12R.

I wish the do change some bits to balance the shape of the bike.
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Ryker77
Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Since I don't really keep track of what sportbike models look like -- most look the same. I just look for the exhaust, or single side swingarm... The cool stuff.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was drooling over the 1098S today...then I saw the pricetag. What a joke!

I'd like to have a 1098, but given my experience with Buell, I'd rather have the 1125R. I don't care what it looks like.
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only thing I see that makes people like the looks of the Duc's more than the 1125r is the difference in having the side fairings covering the engine. That gives room for more color on the bike giving a smoother look.

I'm guessing that someone out there will be making side panels for the 1125r soon. Unlike the XB's, covering the engine will not be a heat issue.
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Anonymous
Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When you see the 1125R live it looks very cool. Ask anyone who has seen it in person, like the folks at Laguna.
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M2nc
Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I look at the pictures of the 1098 next to the 1125R, the Ducati looks plain. I like the look of both the 1098 and 1125R, but the 1125R is outrageous next to other sport bikes. It looks like something that belongs in Mad Max movie. Buell did it again, they designed a bike that people with either hate or love and nothing in between.
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Chasespeed
Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When you see the 1125R live it looks very cool. Ask anyone who has seen it in person, like the folks at Laguna.

Of that I dont doubt...

I havent, nor will I pass judgement until I see it in person....

The numbers look good, BUT, so do most UJM bikes numbers look good, BUT, I still prefer the Duc's and Buells....

Again, I dont know why I keep following this board, I will never be able to ride or own one of these beauties....

Chase}
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Ducxl
Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Birds of a feather flock together.As the Buell gains performance it looks more like other bikes with similar performance...Hmmmm,they may be onto something.

I don't dislike ANYTHING about the new bike.Despite my rude comment about first year production.
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Jimidan
Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 1225R has a front fairing that really works...and is much more akin to the XBRR's front end (which also worked exceptionally well) than any other motorcycle. Is it form over function that you guys who don't like the new front end are looking for? What is more important: the way the bike looks or the way it works? The Buell places more emphasis on function over form, but the art comes in with the way they did it and maintained a great looking design.

But what do I know about it...I am just a troll.

jimidan
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Court
Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>I havent, nor will I pass judgement until I see it in person....


Smart move. I've urged that from the first day and reports, coming in from Laguan Seca, bear out my "this thing looks 1000x better in person than in the pics".

You won't even (at least I didn't) notice the radiators in person . . . in fact, I asked WHERE IS THE RADIATOR?
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Crusty
Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When you see the 1125R live it looks very cool. Ask anyone who has seen it in person, like the folks at Laguna.

Or the people who saw it at Road America.
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Aj06bolt12r
Posted on Monday, July 30, 2007 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In my opinion the duc 1098 is the sexiest stock sport bike i have ever seen. However I never even thought about buying one, especially at that price. Mostly because it has the least street able egros of all the liter bikes and is no faster than the gsxr thou on the street or the track. Just looks are not enough. My next bike was probably going to be a gsxr 750 or used aprilla tuno. Until the 1125r came about. Now I will have to wait and see how it fairs in the street comparisons. I hope the buell prevails!
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L_je
Posted on Monday, July 30, 2007 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buell2001b,
When you get pulled in for a "random" drug test tomorrow...you'll know that your boss surfs BadWeb.
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Monday, July 30, 2007 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buellistic....

Harley Davidson....making mechanics out of Buell riders since 1995!
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Buellistic
Posted on Monday, July 30, 2007 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Curtis:

"i" have been one since 1997 !!!

WORKS FOR ME !!!

Have 97,632.2 miles on my 97S3T and the TOP END has never been off ...

Only been on the side of the road broke twice, 1st: the front motor mount broke which was a warranty issue, 2nd: The drive belt broke because "i" left it on too long ...

Every time "i" see Erik Buell, "i" ask him does he want it back to see where they went wrong and his answer is it will go another 100K ...

In BUELLing
LaFayette
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Mikef5000
Posted on Monday, July 30, 2007 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)




You think WHICH TWO look similar? (Notice scoops under headlights and under passenger seat, and nearly identical exhausts)

Sorry guys. While the details may be much better/nicer, over all, I think the Duc looks too much like all the other jap bikes covered in plastic.

I'm so glad Buell opted for the partial/no fairing.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 02:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FWIW I have full fairings on my Firebolt and have not had any overheating issues with it. Even on 100degree days
I always hear people alluding to heat being a problem for me, but at worst my bike's fan runs another 30 seconds
after other XBs I've ridden with. However I attribute that more to the high compression (11.43:1) and the fact it's
a 1250 and puts down more power and therefore has more heat to dissipate.
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