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Billybob
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2016 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

when buell was part of hd why did't they use the 1125 vrod eng? i would like to have a vrod less rake and a dif rear tire a sport bike. ithink ebr will use the parts on hand and liqate
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2016 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The VRod engine did apparently start as a Buell excercise, but then Harley Davidson "helped", and added quite a bit of weight to the thing. The result was a pretty nice power cruiser motor, but it wasn't a sportbike motor.

The Helicon, with some tuning, is now making 185HP in EPA trim. And is very light.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

HD wanted an engine they could use in several models and, as Bill said, they "helped" to make that happen, and ruined it for use in a sport bike.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...but if you want an engine that weighs as much as a whole EBR...grab yourself a VRSCR Street Rod. Inverted forks, mid controls, semi-clip-on bars, and actually a decent performer considering the size and wheelbase.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also, I think the vrod engine is 1130 or 1135. Buell ended up with an 1125 because HD didn't want the Buell engine to be bigger than the HD engine. It's amazing Buell was able to do anything under the weight of that beast.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Original Revolution motors were 1130. Later were 1250.
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Johndd
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2016 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I looked at a lot of used V-Rods before buying a used Uly.
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2016 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Only bike Harley ever built that used that engine and was halfway decent was the Street Rod. Naturally, nobody bought it and it was discontinued. Only the miserably uncomfortable V-Rod line is left.
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Johndd
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2016 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

@Jaimec,
Here's an interesting article on the Street Rod:
http://www.cycleworld.com/2012/11/20/harley-davids on-vrscr-street-rod-best-used-bikes/
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Stevel
Posted on Friday, July 29, 2016 - 05:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The same HD influence that effected the revolution motor also hurt the Helicon design. The engine should have been 1200cc not 1125. Everything else from valve and port sizing dimension wise seems optimized for 1200cc.
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, July 29, 2016 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I rode a Street Rode the first year it came out. Although it wasn't in ANY Buell's class, it was far better than anything else the Motor Company offered. Civilized seating position, decent motor... the only thing I didn't like was that big, heavy 19" front wheel they gave it (for styling purposes, I presume).

Once you were up to speed that thing had so much gyroscopic action getting it to change direction was EXHAUSTING. Worked best on long sweepers because you'd wear your back, shoulders and arms out trying to wrestle that thing down a snotty back road at speed.
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Wileecoyote
Posted on Friday, July 29, 2016 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jaimec

Nail on head. Wrong motor for a sportbike.

MAYBE for a Uly type. Maybe.
Gotta be light to extinguish corners and leave in a hurry.
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Rkc00
Posted on Monday, December 12, 2016 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


My street rod
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