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Eraendil
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 04:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



here in french
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Loosely translated:


quote:

According to our American friend Asphalt & Rubber, Erik Buell Racing would currently work on a 250 cc motorcycle for beginners. It must be said that Erik Buell has still not digested the implementation to the appointment of the 500 Blast and that the US market appears ready for the downsizing. Evidenced by such staggering success of the Kawasaki Ninja 250R, best selling of the sports category in Uncle Sam!
A small economic motorcycle would be a great way to diversify an offer exclusively sports and high-end. Remains that the small company of East Troy is currently not the means to develop a new engine, and that available on the market engines are neither numerous nor folichonnes. Case to follow everything well: knowing the tenacity of Mister Buell, the project becomes a reality one day or the other!


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Eraendil
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

good translation... Folichonne : Fun, amusing

(Message edited by eraendil on October 25, 2011)
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Moxnix
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>numerous nor folichonnes (a barrel of laughs)

Well, I wouldn't want my engine to not be folichonnes.

(Message edited by moxnix on October 25, 2011)
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It was the simple "translate this page" so . . if my previous experience with Italian is any indicator. . it'll be full of silly errors.

Key is to get the "big picture".

But . . it always produces fun results.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd enjoy a cheap little 250cc commuter supermotard. My KLR-250 was a lot of fun on the street, there is a lot of potential there.
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Rainman
Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My Blast is my daily commuter. Would love to check out a killer-handling 250 from EBR
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Xb1125r
Posted on Friday, January 13, 2012 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i think its good to diversify, with a samller engine they can use it also for motorcross which from what I have heard it is a big sport in the west coast.
what ever decisions I hope the best for EBR.
I still remember the joy i felt when i saw a buell in Milan. the beaty among the mopeds, lol
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2012 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

speaking of MX
about two issues ago in Cycle World there was a feature on a MX racer.
And in the feature was a small snipet about how his team manager was one of the people working on the Buell dirtbike.

Shame that didnt pan out, I'd love to have one.
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Court
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2012 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For drawings and details:

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/newsandupdates/1 22_0905_buell_motocrosser_off_road_concept/index.h tml

In addition, there are several websites with quite detailed accounts from some of the folks who were hired to do the project.

For those of you that buy the next book . . . you will read what is doubtless one of the funniest stories in Buell history . . . and, you guessed it, it's about that silly dirt bike.

http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Buel l-MX450f-revealed-a-little,783435









By the way . . . keen eyes have . . while their pals argued gays, religion, cop v. military and such foolishness . . have detected a major disturbance in the force. Thanks to those of you who e-mailed me this morning.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2013 - 05:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

still a gut check to see it so close and not let to fly.

damn
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Sparky
Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2013 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's a very cool and revealing thread, vitalmx.com, that Court posted about. What I especially like is the tribute to Erik Buell that the last poster says. I'll reiterate it here 'cause it needs to be heard and felt...

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BUELLXT-1/24/2010 7:03 PM

Hi, from a non-dirtbike rider.
It is a true tragedy what happened to Buell Motorcycle Company. Not being around dirt bikes all that much (I hag around at the bike shop my kid works for and I used to race a CR 125 back in the 70s) I have been out of it for a long while, and at my age really had little interest in a dirt bike.
At first glance looking at the big picture in the road bike scene, there was precious little that the big manufacturers could improve on. But Buell always managed to have this special niche that could be filled with some very impressive ideas and engineering. The advancements in engineering that were accomplished, it will take decades for the other manufacturers to catch up to. Every so often in every field of interest there is a huge advancement in equipment. Since it is winter, I will make an example with snowmobiles. From the very early designs there were certain mile stones, like going from no suspension, to 2 inches to 10, 13+ inches. It took decades for these designs to develop. I can remember most motorcross suspension designs were exactly the same, then came lay-down shocks, mono-shocks, inverted forks.
When Buell came out with the road bikes it was unique and advanced in many ways, and with the advent of the XB series there were so many innovations that it just set milestones for the other manufacturers. However, the innovations were so radical that the mainstream motorcycle scene just failed to grasp what they were seeing, and until they actually rode one kept preconcieved notions that because it didn't rev to 14,000 RPM or top out at 200 MPH it wasn't worth looking at.
What you would have seen had the Buell MX been manufactured would have really rung your collective bells. You would have had to sample one with an open mind to realize just how cool it was.(I'm dreaming here)
I met a bunch of workers and an engineer while I was at the Last Ride, and many were still lamenting the end of the Griffin project. One woman I met told me with tears in her eyes that it was a beautiful engine one like you had never seen before all Buell design, like it was a grandchild of hers. What you would have seen I know would have been incredible, just like the rest of the motorcycles designed. It is sad that the short sightedness of the Harley-Davidson company could kill off so much innovation and destroy their own future is beyond explaination.
The Harley-Davidson culture is slowly dying and Buell brought new life and vitality to the company, and it is just not Erik Buell himself, it was everybody that worked for him, and the core values prominently displayed on the walls in the offices and assembly areas. One of the things that struck me during the Erik Buell speach at the Last Ride was he said "the workers from the company was like one of those mushrooms(puffball) that when you step on it it blows up and all the little spores go all over the place, and his workers will go out from here and inhabit small shops and factorys all over the country and take with them a little bit of the Buell company" Truely a cool guy, he really had his game face on even though it was a sad day.
Erik Buell is allready selling Buell race bikes and parts at Erik Buell Racing.
Thanks for letting me ramble.



'nuff said.
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Rodrob
Posted on Sunday, June 02, 2013 - 06:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A 250 Streetbike would make a lot of sense and would not surprise me one bit as this is exactly the kind of development work that EBR would be doing with Hero for bikes in India. I would guess that at least some proprietary engineering that is being done for Hero, is licensed to them, and EBR would retain ownership and the right to exploit the designs in other markets. Not to mention the huge tooling and manufacturing capability Hero already has as an OEM supplier. But this is entirely speculation.
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Brumbear
Posted on Sunday, June 02, 2013 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IDK I don't see anything but what I was worried about and thats an Indian Buell oh well some see lemons some see lemonade.
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Xb1125r
Posted on Tuesday, June 04, 2013 - 08:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

maybe makign a 300 is a better choice look at kawasaki. their ninja is way betetr then the cbr 500
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Trojan
Posted on Tuesday, June 04, 2013 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Kawasaki Ninja 250 was such a huge success that it has now been superseded by the 300!

Don't believe everything you read.

Small capacity street bikes are only popular when they are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP. If they cost the same as bigger bikes then they flop like a fat man in a swimming pool.


One of the reasons the Blast was never released in Europe was that it would have cost the same as a 600 Suzuki Bandit and it would simply not have sold.

The small capacity market is however hotting up now that KTM have their Indian production up and running and are producing the 200/390 models. Triumph are rumoured to be on the verge of producing a small capacity Indian made bike, and Honda are producing Chinese built CBR250/CRF250 models now too..

IF EBR can do a similar deal with Hero to produce a quality budget 300 then they could do well, but the bottom line is that they MUST be cheap to buy.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Saturday, June 15, 2013 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whenever I sit on a cheap bike and it's cheap components and cheap build, that is all I notice, how darned cheap it is. They may sell, but not to me. All cheap means to me is mucho maintenance and short life span. What attracted me to the Ulysses is that it was and is quite the bang for the buck.
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, June 15, 2013 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I want a cheap one. It's an excuse to cut it up and weld on it. That is exactly why I haven't cut up the Uly.....yet.
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