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Tankhead
Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Motorcycle Daily Dec 10th 2007
More Liquid-Cooled Buells?

By Dirck Edge
Was the 1125R just the beginning? Now that Buell has stepped beyond air-cooled Harley motors, can we expect other liquid cooled engines to grace future bikes?


The rumor is that Buell has already started development of at least one other liquid-cooled model, with a lower displacement than the big 1125R. The 1125R appears to just have just been a beginning step into the use of modern, liquid-cooled engine designs in future Buell models.
What do you guys say?
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Court
Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Duh. . I say the writer is a genius.

Buell spends MILLIONS (divide that by the 12,000 1125r's they'll sell this year) on developing a new motor and this guy is willing to make they leap of faith that they use some iteration of it in a future product?

No journalist left behind.

(Message edited by court on December 29, 2007)
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Barker
Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pulitzer worthy article.
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4cammer
Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Allan Girdler he is not.....
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Thespive
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 01:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Being an automotive journalist, I should tell you that many of the writers come and go with the freelancing assignments. Many are not even enthusiasts. This is why it helps to read the byline, know the author and let him/her build credibility with you.

I don't know Mr. Edge, but I do know journalism isn't rocket science. Anyone can get in to it with the right contacts. The ones who are goo at what they do build relationships in the industry over time and know things, sometimes years before, ahead of when they can actually tell you. The other are good guessers.

Know your author!

--Sean
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Diablobrian
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have met both the father and son that are the staff of Motorcycle Daily when I lived in
San Diego. I ran into them on Palomar Mtn while they were testing out one of the new r6's
a few years ago. They live in Temecula CA IIRC and they are both motorcycle enthusiasts.

I think that in this case they had a slow news day and just decided to give a little open ended
speculation on Buell's future plans to try to stir up some responses from their readers.
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S1wmike
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know Mr. Edge, but I do know journalism isn't rocket science. Anyone can get in to it with the right contacts. The ones who are goo at what they do

That's gotta be a mess!!!


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Thespive
Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

: )

I know there are A LOT of cool things I get to see that I GOO on!

I just got back from Detroit, where I saw a certain company's full product portfolio from now until 2011! I gooed all over!

--Sean

(Message edited by thespive on January 03, 2008)
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The old expression used to be: "Newsprint never refuses ink."

Now should be: "The Internet never refuses keystrokes"
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Thespive
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pure gold Slaughter.

--Sean
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Court
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 06:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They are going to have to hurry . . .. lest the headlines be "this is what they would have made".

The new Vette rolls this month !
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Mikej
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The new Vette rolls this month !

Buell is building a Vette now?????
(this is one way of how rumors start)
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is an opportunity here...

With the new "fleetwide" fuel economy standards coming down, and cars like the Corvette getting harder to "offset", I think every Corvette purchaser should be also required to buy a Chevy branded Buell Blast. That'll keep the fleet averages balanced, and probably add less to the cost of the car then the leather interior.
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Buell2001b
Posted on Saturday, January 19, 2008 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i think this is old knews, he must be talking about the 450 engine for the Buell dirt bike. I would love o see how buell develops this bike, i have seen the lates BMW and KTM. i sat on them and honestly I know that I am not a dirt boy. I'll stick to the twisties. I like a bike that with me on it become one
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Drummer
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd love to see the 450 in a naked sportbike. Honda never did do anything to rise to the challenge of the SV and we HawkGT owners are still waiting!
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Strato9r
Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on that naked sportbike single, 450cc or not. As far as the new Corvette coming out and how it may relate to Buell, well........ it really wasnt that long ago (for some of us, anyway), that Corvettes were really not taken seriously as sports cars. When the 1984 models were released, however, the car had taken a huge leap forwards, technically, even though it was powered by a slightly warmed over truck engine. Year by year, the car was refined and tweaked, and it was still powered by a torquey, low revving (by sports car standards), archaic lump. This probably sounds familiar, no? As the car got better and better, magazine writers would muse upon this taut, constantly evolving machine; if only it had a "real" motor. Well, bit by bit, the 'vette HAS a real motor, and on its' own terms. A serious, full on American V8 capable of laying down as much or more horsepower than nearly any of its' ancestors, or it's contemporaries, and do it all day long with it's air conditioning and digital sound system cranked on the way to the track, where it will keep up to, or smoke, cars costing waaaaaaaaay more. Well, tube framers evolved into XBs, reliability is now a non issue, and the first iteration of the "real" engine that magazine writers mused upon powering the sweet XB is a reality.
"It feels a lot like the 9 does, except it keeps revving way past 7500", was how one guy I know who's ridden one on the track described it, and he's got a seriously tweaked V-Rod and thinks the 1125 is the best engine he's ever had the pleasure to thrash. Hmmm, big, torquey V motor, that can rev, too. Corvette? Buell? Seems pretty cool either way to me.
Over it's history, whether seen as an icon or a pariah, or, at times, both, the Corvette has NEVER tried to be anything other than what it was. Now the plastic car that started off with a Stovebolt 6 and postwar sedan suspension is a world class sportscar, on it's own terms. If anything could be said about Buell motorcycles, it's that they've NEVER tried to be anything other than what THEY are.................
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Cheesebeast
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 450 Single would fit into the SuperSingles concept. The SuperSingles class looks to be a great idea- use 450cc engines from the MX world in a small tuned chassis and road race it.

The point is to keep costs down to tease the next Rossi, Roberts, and Hayden out of the woodwork.

Hey, you guys said "rumors"!
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Ltigre
Posted on Sunday, June 22, 2008 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, as for a 450 single, Buell already has the 498 single, BLAST. A very capable and economical bike, but not a high performance vehicle.
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Prof_stack
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, as for a 450 single, Buell already has the 498 single, BLAST. A very capable and economical bike, but not a high performance vehicle.
No way the Buell Blast has that many cc! It's only 492cc...
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Motorcyclemike
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is the rumor true? Harley and Buell are getting a divorce? Erik is going out on his own.
I heard that H-D dealers will still be selling Buell's in their shops.
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Elvis
Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That would be sort of crazy, wouldn't it?

I mean they just spent a lot of money to aquire a sport-bike manuf. that's deep in debt and half the size of Buell.

To turn around now and cut Buell loose when they seem to be in a better postion - at a time when the dollar is weak and bikes made in the US are more cost effective than ones made in Italy - than MV Augusta wouldn't make a lot of sense, would it?
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Diablo1
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2008 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Since Buell is owned by HD, Buell would have to be sold off for Buell to go out on their own. So, who would have the money and the desire to buy the Buell company?
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Ourdee
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe GM, so they could put Erik to work on the vette?
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Diablo1
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

GM....?
May not exist if they don't get donations from taxpayers.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There won't be any donations, despite what the media wants you to think, its a loan. They will have to pay it back.
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Kilroy
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 06:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They would have to be able to turn a profit b4 being able to pay anything back - doesn't look like that will happen anytime soon..................
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Crackhead
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 07:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

if buell makes a dirt bike, then the blast needs to become a xb-blast and they need to make a mototard verson of the dirt bike.

it would be the perfect urban bike.
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Friday, December 12, 2008 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, who would have the money and the desire to buy the Buell company I'm off to check my lotto ticket...
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