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Midknyte
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 01:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Someone's probably beat me to it, and someone else will probably rub my nose in a link to another thread. Perhaps not. But, so's you knows...

The March Roadracing World on stands now has a feature article on the RR. Grab a copy. Read it. And stash it someplace near & dear.
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Slaughter
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...and another on Erik Buell and McWilliams testing - both are very good articles.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

definitely keepers. Buell history in the making
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Bikertrash05
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ya think if you sign up for a free sample issue you'll get the current (March) one?
http://www.roadracingworld.com/magazine/free-sample-issue/
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Violating copyrights is frowned upon here, especially when it come to a wonderful publication like Road Racing World and Motorcycle Technology. John Ulrich and his crew are in business to make a profit. It is totally uncool to subvert their potential sales to Buell enthusiasts, good intentions or not, that just ain't right.

I've thus removed the posts here concerned with such copyright violation and ask that we all please refrain from posting that kind of content or how to find it unless we have permission from the pulisher to do so.

Thanks for understanding.
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Imonabuss
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone who doesn't subscribe to RRW and is into racing should definitely get a subscription. There's nothing even close out there; it's an awesome publication.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Road Racing World is well worth the money!!!


RoadRacerX is the only other American publication that even comes close.
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heck even if you are just into sport bikes, RRW the best thing going. I've never seen more in-depth reporting, especially wrt the published specifications.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just wish my current issue would arrive!
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Halsracing
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Road Racing World And Motorcycle Technology is a must have. If you want the inside line these guys are the direct link to the padock. TG
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Jima4media
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmmm, kind of like a Buell Infomercial, eh Terry?

Not that that is a bad thing, I think it is great.

I'd like to see the same inside story on Hondas and Yamahas too.

It makes bench racing a lot more exciting.

Go Buell!
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Hmmmm, kind of like a Buell Infomercial, eh Terry?"

Jim,

Are you implying that the folks at RRW are in any way disingenuous in their reporting?

Unbelievable!
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Jima4media
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not at all. I thought the articles were great. In depth and technical. You don't get that quality of article by sitting at a desk in another state.

Buell contributed a lot to that article, including photographic access.

I'm just saying I would also like to see that depth of article on other bikes as well.

It makes racing more interesting to me as a fan, and as someone who is thinking about buying their products.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm sure the only reason you haven't seen other articles like that is because on one else is willing to offer the kind of no holds barred
inside access that Buell did. They even allowed RRW to report on the failures with the primary drive in detail. Not many factories would
allow that kind of insight into their R&D program. Certainly not during and very rarely do they allow stories about development to be
"leaked" out well after the fact, like after the next generation is released.
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If that is true, then your choice of wording, "infomercial", SUCKS almost beyond belief!
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Slaughter
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jim,

You should read the thing fercrissakes.

Awesome article on the SV v Ninja 650

Eval on the new Triumph Daytona 675

Sure there was a slam on HRC - especially their star-crossed attempt to get Toye's CBR in the hunt. Read about Tigert, Ledesma, Pfeiffer's experiences (each vastly different)

Past comparos on tires, good tech stuff for ALL riders of performance machinery.

Heck, I might just get my tags current on the streetbike this year and ride somewhere besides the track again.
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Midknyte
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The current issue of Bike from across the pond looked interesting too. I picked up a copy of it too. Articles on crashing, avoidance, etc.
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Jima4media
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 02:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Steve,

I read the March RRW cover to cover. The SV versus Ninja 650 article mentions Buell twice.

Diablobrian,

That is exactly the kind of technical details I was talking about, the 3 chain versus 1 chain experiment.

The SV 650, Ninja and Triumph 675 are nice bikes, but they won't be in the Daytona 200 will they?

That is why I want to see more on the '06 CBR600RR and '06 R6.

We didn't find out the problems with the RC51 until after the CBR1000RR was out.

I did like the first person articles on privateer racing and their problems with HRC.
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Anonymous
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jim,

There already were articles on the 600 FX bikes in RRW last year, including the costs to build them. Some manufacturers would definitely be more forthright than others, but there are ones that would never open their testing, development and every component to the press.

The company that is screaming about the way AMA rules are written, and screeching about the rule interpretation is the same one that was putting magnesium replicas of stock wheels on their Supersport bikes, complete with DOT casting marks, and painted in stock color, etc. You know the class where bikes are showroom stock?
Now THAT is breaking rules.
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Anonymous
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey, Slaughter,

Happen to know how to get in touch with Pfeiffer? Wouldn't it be cool to hook him up with a dealer who's buying an RR, and is looking for a rider? Now there would be a guy motivated to have a chance to ride a factory bike that's available to the privateer!

Riders like him are exactly what the XBRR was built for, and I hope that Honda won't be able to throw their weight around enough to kill the RR. They will surely try, and they will get support from folks who have received advertising dollars, etc.

There are companies that make an effort to help privateers, but American Honda is at the bottom of the list. And Buell is at the top, not in dollars, but definitely in dollars as a percentage of size!! Heck, Buell is a $90 million company. And Honda is...?

There never has been a Honda equivalent of the Yamaha TZ bikes. Nor has there been a Honda equivalent to the GSXR Cup stuff. American Honda is the wealthiest of all the companies, and the one who does the least. Since Sochiro passed away, they have lost all their soul. No surprise that they would do what they are doing.
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Davegess
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Honda screaming bloody murder about the unfairness of it all. This is too delicious for words. In a perfect world they would finish the 200 behind not only Buell but also Ducati and Yamaha.
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Jima4media
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anonymous,

Last years FX bikes are last years news.

This really is a David versus Goliath Cinderella Story.

When Honda shows up at Daytona with no less than 4 Featherlite semis supporting their teams, and the Buell privateers show up with a couple of two wheel trailers and a couple of pop-up tents, it will be easy to see the difference in the teams and support.

Honda has gone down hill ethically in the last few years with some of the tricks they have pulled, but then again I remember Buells being disqualified for too high octane fuel also.

In racing, it is what ever you can get away with that counts, I guess.

Jim
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jim,

Right, cause a privateer mistakenly using the wrong grade of gasoline is no different in your mind than a manufacturer employing illegal conterfeit magnesium wheels.

Unbelievable.

And really it is irrelevant, please try to keep up with the discussion. We're talking about support for privateers, not factory teams. Everyone knows that the factory teams get plenty of factory support, nothing but the best.

"In racing, it is what ever you can get away with that counts, I guess."
As in all things, it is integrity that counts. Pushing the tech rules envelope is one thing, committing outright dishonest fraud is quite another.
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Jon
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jim,

I know you'll be pulling for Buell. Stick with Anony...he does not speak with forked tounge.
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anony... sorry I took so long to get back here.

I'll track Pfeiffer down here at Willow.

I'm trying really hard to get some dealers and enthusiasts together to field a team. We can raise money doing BRAG fundraisers at Glendale HD/Buell - but that occasional $2K only goes so far :-)

I'd love to see Pfeiffer in the seat. I'm pitting for Scott Jensen in AMA SBK in Daytona and we're trying to work a scam that way too.

Bill Bartels is putting my still smashed XB1169 back together starting tomorrow and we're going to have another rider race it for me (yet to be announced) - at WSMC until I finish paying the devil (VISA and Medical) to regain my soul and get back to racing myself.

Pfeiffer would be an awesome racer on the RR - he's HUNGRY!

Jensen would be another awesome racer - and 2 of his crew both own Buells though he's prioritized AMA SBK this year, he said he would be willing to hit WSMC.

I just gotta push Mario at Glendale to cough up the $$$ for an RR (though his shop's 12R is nearly race-ready and they are more interested in a showroom/race/street legal bike) - kind of a shame they don't field an RR effort since they're funding a Destroyer team this year - but then I'm a road racer, not a drag racer.

Since I'm out of the saddle some few more months, I'm able to put more effort into pimping - oops I meant promoting. Hope to work more directly supporting Glendale in getting more pubilicity since we have a pretty unique "thing" going with all the BRAG members that now have their racing licenses AND Mario (the GM of the shop) is not just a supporter of the brand, he's a racer.

Not too many places that you can buy your Buell and then go race it against the guy who runs the store - and get wrenching help from the guy you bought it from (Ernie Snair - sales dude extrordinaire)

You'd think with a little thought, we'd be able to swing it... stay tuned.

(if I did get an RR, I know Bartels would do ALL race support - Jeff Ecklund and Bill Bartels have kinda/sorta expressed interest) - Glendale really is more interested in a street-legal (sorta) racebike.

(Message edited by slaughter on February 23, 2006)

(Message edited by slaughter on February 23, 2006)
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