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M1combat
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did. I got a Moto-GP 1 pc for $720 after shipping. It's even kangaroo leather : ). It's not real comfortable to walk around in but it disappears once I get on the bike. I still need a pair of Sidi Vertigo Corsa's and some new gloves though.

Thanks Blake : ).
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Diablobrian
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a pair of the vertigos. They are a quality boot. I love Sidi boots.
My brother races in the previous model vertebras.

Where did you get that kind of deal on a kangaroo leather 1 pc? Racing leather is never comfortable for walking around.
At least not if it fits right. Kind of splits the uprights.
You will also need a good spine protector, if one is not built into your leathers.
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M1combat
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh yeah... a back protector too : ).

Got it on Ebay new.

They say if you aren't sweating by the time you get it on then it's probably too lose. I'm JUST breaking a sweat by the time I zip it : ).
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Mutation_racer
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

m1combat it gonna cost alot more then a thousand a weekend. My buget with liberty hd-buell is about 2500.00 a race weekend good luck hope to see you out there soon. 9look out for us at DAYTONA


GO BUELL LIBERTY WINS
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Mr_cuell
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can do $1000 a weekend clubracing I think. I used a pick up and a tent, had 2 10x10 easyups and an old green carpet, set of tires, entry fees, pack of smokes, bag of chips a'hoy and and a truckload of gatorade. Slim jims for the drive too. And Cake on the CD player. Crashing costs extra of course, but zip ties go a long way . . . Daytona trips cost more, especially w/today's fuel, but 1k and you'll be livin right. Take lots of pictures, and better yet, lots of video. You'll be old one day if things go right and no one will believe you - PM me if you ever come out to Summit Point and I'll come out and lend you any help I can
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Mr_cuell
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh - I did eventually buy a 10x6 trailer for $1500 and slept in that. Way better than the pick-up -
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M1combat
Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's about what I plan for now. Just get to the damn track. I can't spend $2500 a weekend on it. It looks like I can get one set of tires per weekend and I MIGHT be able to line up just a smidgeon of sponsorship. Maybe a few sets of tires and maybe something for brake pads or something like that. My plan is to get comfortable at a "race" pace (or as close as I can get anyway) this year, race next year and then "go faster" the year after.

I would like to get a trailer, but at this point it'll probably be me sleeping in the bed of my truck with the bike chained to everything I can get a chain around : ).

Aside from gear, my main goal is to save up to get a salvage titled bike and some suspension by the beginning of next season. I don't want to bin my street bike. It's too much fun and my insurance company would laugh at me : ).

In any case, Thanks for the well wishes. I'm sure you'll see pics at some point.

(Message edited by M1Combat on February 14, 2006)
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Josh_
Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>my main goal is to save up to get a salvage titled bike and some suspension

Me too. I'll keep you posted if I see any in your neck of the woods.
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M1combat
Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks. I'll let you know if I hear of any near MO : )
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Diablobrian
Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As a privateer you should do fine on $1000 a weekend, but it will be tight.

Do not give in to temptation and try to squeeze too much out of your tires
or brakes.
It will cost you more in repairs to your bike than you will save.
If the choice is going out on marginal equipment or going home, it's no choice
at all. Go home.

We won our CCS regional championship in GT Lights last year on far less than
$2500 a race weekend.
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M1combat
Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the words of wisdom. I'm hoping to have a new set of tires every weekend and I'll try to have four extra sets before the season. That way if I DO need to use an extra set at some point I can and it won't mess with my monthly budget. Also... That way if I do lay it down (and I'm certain I will) I'll have a few races where I don't need to buy tires so I can afford to fix the bike...

Well... That's my plan anyway : ). I'm in extreme money conservation mode ATM, but spending what I need to on gear first and I'll see what I end up with. It'll happen though : ).

Do you think a person can make four eight lap races on one set of tires?
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M1combat
Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And practice...
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Diablobrian
Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you can, save the money. Tires harden with age. You are better off being able to buy fresh
rubber from the track vendor than keeping a pair for 3-4 months before using it. As an alternative,
rotate the tires in your stock if you go that way. Use the older tires and put the new one in
storage. Also be sure to store the tires properly if you won't be using them immediately.

We got pretty close to a full weekend of racing on a single pair of slicks last year. That is 3
8 lap sprint races, 1 25 minute timed race, and at least 4 practice sessions. Depending on your
pace, the temp, track, and tires you choose that should be a pretty good rough estimate. of course, YMMV
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M1combat
Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It'll be a HOT track... I'll be doing six races in Phoenix, one in Vegas and one in New Mexico. It sounds to me like one set per weekend will work as long as I don't go with the softest compound I can get my hands on. Any idea what compounds to run front/rear? Or at least where to start? I figured I'd rotate the oldest pair out with the newest pair but yeah... Maybe it would be better to just keep that cash on hand and buy them when I need them. I'm pretty sure the CCSSW rules state that I need to run DOT legal tires for the four classes the bike is legal in. I'll double check that.

I'll need to write down my finances for the year here pretty soon so I know exactly what can be put in which account : ).

(Message edited by M1Combat on February 14, 2006)
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Henrik
Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tire wear is a very individual thing. There was a similar discussion on the SV Racers board, and the range was from one day of racing to almost a full season of racing w/ practice etc. per one set of tires . The almost full season was Zoran W - a very well known (and fast!) racer/bike builder in the SV scene.

Granted I'm not fast by a long stretch, but the newer DOT track day/race tires will last longer than full race slicks (i.e. will tolerate many more heating cycles), and may - depending on your pace and riding style - have plenty of traction for you. You'll need to test things out.

As for the budget: sleeping at the track is a great way of saving $$, but not all track day organizers pay for that option, in which case you'll need to leave.

We always leave our bikes at the track overnight during track weekends, and have yet to have anything stolen or tampered with. I would be hesitant to leave tools, spare wheels and such just lying around.

Good luck and keep us posted on your adventure.

Henrik

(Message edited by Henrik on February 14, 2006)
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