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Loki
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 01:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Al,

Depends on the wheel to which they are fitted. I believe the PM takes three 6205. That 62205 can be a pain to get ones hands at times, without having to order one.
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Court
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 05:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>Court what the hell does one do in Manhattan with a pickup?

Uhhh...become and excellent parallel parker? (a little help here.. please Road Thing)

It would not have been my first choice if I were headed out to buy, but it's proven perfect. Tons of room and not subject to having the front hood dimpled from the inside out from "power shopping" and putting in too many shoe boxes, like a 911.

Like the KLR, it provides a vantage point high enough to see what's happening. I spend, no surprise here, a good deal of time in it now that I am no longer doing the bus-ferry-subway drill. I've got it fairly well laid out to suit my needs as well....

One more set of tires and then we change....maybe.

:)
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Bartimus
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 08:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,
just put a sidecar on the KLR!
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Choptop
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone have the gear ratio vs. RPM vs. Top Speed calcualtion handy?

I've got the following measurements:
rear Tire diam (or circ.)
Front sprocket teeth
rear sprocket teeth
Top speed

I'd like to now what rpm we were turning (the tach went out on us on the salt).
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Aaron
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Speed is:

rotations per minute
x minutes per hour (usually 60)
/ primary ratio
/ transmission ratio
/ final drive ratio
x tire circumference in inches (about 77.9" for an average 180/55ZR17)
/ 12 inches to a foot
/ 5280 feet to a mile

To calculate rpm knowing speed, you'd just calculate the above quantity without the rpm factor and then divide the speed by that number.
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Road_thing
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can attest to the fact that Court is an excellent parallel parker. He does generally come to rest in a parallel orientation. I once personally observed him to end up actually facing the same direction as all the other parked cars.

The sirens and flashing lights on the truck kept morbidly curious passers-by out of the crumple zone, and collateral damage was minimal.

r-t
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Road_thing
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron, Chop, don't forget tire slip! I'm sure that Triumph must have had some significant wheelspin!

r-t
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Lee
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any of you West Coasters have any thoughts or opinions on Sacramento HD? Specifically their service departments reputation?
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Court
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thing:

You omitted one significant qualifier:

All this fancy-smancy parking occurred AFTER we left the sidewalk and returned to the public streets.

:)
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Snail
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron, from that it should be easy to compute wheel spin too.

Thinking of adding ballast to swing arm.

Paul
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Ara
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court, I have an '86 Nissan 4x4 and have stuck with Bridgestone Desert Duelers due to the performance they've given me over the years. They're rated for 40K miles but you'll get 60K if you care for them properly. I don't buy anything else.
BTW, a buddy of mine works at a tire store and he told me that right now Bridgestone is introducing its '04 tires and stores are unloading their '03 stock at cost.
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Road_thing
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court, I guess I missed the sidewalk/street transition while I was covering my eyes with my hands and cowering on the floorboards.

However, I will give you credit: even with your "creative" driving techniques, you didn't get stopped by the law as many times as Paul and I did in Wendover last weekend...

r-t
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Court
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>didn't get stopped by the law as many times as Paul and I did in Wendover last weekend...

Thing: I, in my capacity as moral compass/quasi-legal consel, for Team Elves am no stranger to the legal and empirical entanglements that foreigns can lure the unwitting and innocent American in to. Much of this, even factoring in your Texacality, is not your fault.

There is, my dear young charge, a legal thing known as an "illegal association". Although not strictly within the limits that emcompsses, nor as dangerous as having "one drink" with a Fireman or Elf-Bodyworker, you were nonetheless foolheartedly played, as if putty in their hands, by the Australians and Dutch. For that, you must answer.

Last time they tried this trick it backfired, complicated by the fact that the foreigned was unaware that his compatriot was an American only by Green Card status. Thinking him a New Yakwer he attempted to sacrifice him to the waiting arms of 4 car loads of Larimar Counties finest only to discover, both cuffed together, that they BOTH SPOKE DUTCH!

You, speaking the lingo of the dingo, could have helped NOTHING by introducing a rapid fire barage of "ya'll's" and not even I, with my recently learnt "youse", woudl have been powerless.

Fact of the matter, partner...yer damn lucky, without me having been there, to have left and returned to Texico in one piece. Give yerself a big ol' hug and thank yer lucky stars.

By the way, bribing a Utah Trooper with a "great" Chicken Fry Steak (not capitalized by accidnet) or Luther's is poor judgement as well.

You are one lucky hombre! Hurry back to Gotham for your next driving lesson!

By the way...thsoe wanting to take my spelling to task, feel free to wste you own time, cut and paste this to word and correct until your anal retentive self overflows with joy!
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Paulinoz
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I knew what the above meant I might be insulted but only being an exponent of " The Dingo Lingo" it's all double Dutch to me ( sorry Pete ). The only defence I have re the Boot wearing Texan's brush with the law is at the time he was behind the wheel and I was on the footpath ( read side walk ) talking photos, therfore I am totaly inocent and any infringment would be down to the person in control of the car at the time. I rest my case your honour,
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Ocbueller
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My former employ for the City of New York required driving a plain wrapper van with "Official" plates. I can assure you that sidewalks are fair game.
SteveH
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Pilot
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

His driving is like his spelling, fast and furious.
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Road_thing
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But Paul, you THOUGHT you were driving, you were on the starboard side of the car, where the controls belong, sez you...

Damn good thing I'm such a smooth talker, or we'd have seen the sun rise from a cell in West Wendover!

r-t
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Blasterd
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guys,
Getting ready to replace my primary gasket this weekend, what other parts should I go ahead and replace? Any tips will be greatly appreciated, I have never had it off before. Do I have to take the V & H off?

Thanks,
Ken
2000 M2
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Blake
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To add to Aaron's formula...

It might be a bit more accurate to factor tire contact patch deformation into the circumference variable. With the rider on the bike in normal racing crouch, bike upright and on level ground, measure the height from the ground to the center of the axle, multiply by 2*PI (6.2832) and you then have a good approximation of your rear tire's effective circumference.


On another racing topic... :D

I had the distinct pleasure of meeting the Englishman and the Cowboy and their sons this weekend. Englishman and I were doing our best to represent Buell in CMRA amateur competition; Cowboy and son were there to cheer us on while the younger Englishman was tearing up the track in the mini-class. I also met some folks from Austin HD/Buell who were campaigning an XB12R. If Toby wasn't still in bone mending mode, we would have had four Buells at Oak Hill Raceway! As usual, the Buells garnered a LOT of attention and admiration by fellow racers and racing fans alike.

I ran the 30 minute GTU (middleweight/600cc IL4's) race on Saturday (my 1250 kit makes my Buell illegal for the GTL lightweight class). Everything was going according to plan. I won the drag race to turn one leaving Keith (Skully) who was gridded one row ahead of me to ponder trying to pass me on the course at speed. I figured he'd be a good friend and just follow me around on his F3 for the rest of the race. You ever ride flat out around a racetrack for 30 minutes? I thought riding 920 miles in 18 hours was tough. Not even close. That GT race kicked my ars and so did Keith and his F3. He pulled a Rossi and waited patiently for me to screw up and run wide. I got him back a lap or so later. He soon returned the favor and drove away leaving me contemplating my sad state of physical conditioning and a belly pan that was being ground to dust on the left side. On a positive note the Cyclone and I finished ahead of four GSXR600's, two R6's, and a CBR600F2.

I think that maybe the bike was feeling about the same as I, but adverse to quitting, I notched the pace back a tiny bit to catch my breath and let the cramps have their dues. Keith gapped me by over 6 seconds by the end of the race. The better man won, no doubt. I plotted a come-back in our Formula 40 sprint race the next day.

The fire breathing Nallinized Cyclone saw fit to add to the drama after the GTU race. I had noticed a strange rattling sound resonating at certian rpm after about midway through the GT race. Sounded like a loose bracket or such. It was... After 17 laps of GT racing the Cyclone had greedily consumed both the front and rear exhaust hangers. The heavy rear ring clamp was broken at one section but still supporting the tailpipe fairly well. The front Buell race header support, the stainless steel shoe around which a T-bolt clamp holds the collector, was in three pieces. It obviously did not show the vicious V-Twin enough respect. My race plans for Sunday were in peril.

Thankfully with Keith's help on Sunday morning, we were able to rig the shoe hanger from my Borla street muffler in place of the shattered race header shoe. We had to mount it backwards and remove the rubber spacer on the old style hanger mount (pre-"Y" mount), but a stock style T-bolt clamp just barely accomodated the resulting circumference and was able to hold the collector fast along with an over-torqued 5/16" stainless steel bolt and plate washers to hold fast to the support braket, now sporting, sans rubber isolater/donut, a 3/4" hole. (yeah - yeah, a run on sentence for sure, but it gives you the flavor of the moment, capice?) ;)

Keith was a huge help as was sir Mark (Englishman) as he provide a chordless drill to aid in repositioning the belly pan to alleviate the much dreaded scrapage suffered the day before. I'll say one thing, that lexan is damn tough stuff. It has gotta be, hands down, the best material for a belly pan their is.

As much as Keith aided my efforts, I still plotted my revenge for the ars kicking he had handed me in GTU the day before...

Warm-up lap... blast off hard, brake hard at each corner, need to get some serious heat into the Michelin hard compound rear and medium front.

Green flag drops... blast off take the inside line from Keith who is a row ahead but outside.

Put head down and go.

Will the rigged header clamp hold?

Will the tires be warm enough to grip at full speed on the first lap?

Answers... Yes and yes...

Where's Keith? Answer... literally eating my dust as the Buell race muffler blows all manner of debris into the air as it sweeps the track on each left hander. Cool stuff according to Keith. :D

With the added left hand cornering clearance, although still not 100% clearance, I finished 6th out of 14 starters in the Formula 40 Amateur class. The old Buell and I were able to better the likes of two R6's, two
996's, a GSXR600, and various CBR600R's including, yes, Keith's F3. I even had a great duel with an expert riding a YZF600. It took some very determined riding to beat her. She whooped ole Keith though. Maybe he had "other" things on his mind. :D

The race winners in the fast expert classes were turning 1:27's for their fastest laps. Keith and I were turning respectable 1:37's in our top form. We were roughly ten seconds per lap behind professional AMA superbike racer, Michael Sanchez on his GSXR600 MW Superbike. It was a true priveledge to be on the track with such a gifted racer and gentleman. You will be hearing more about Mr. Sanchez, gauranteed.

I also ran the Thunderbike race finishing 7th out of ten amateurs.

Keith put on one of the best racing displays of the day in MW GP, the last race of the day. He started real slow and appeared to be left behind after the first two laps. But he put his head down and started a slow but steady charge for the bikes ahead. By the last lap he was on the tail of an R6. He passed the R6 coming into the last turn of the last lap. It doesn't matter what place you are racing for, it's all racing just the same. And man, a close finish with a last lap - last turn pass is hard to beat!

Next CMRA race at OHR will be March 2004. Y'all come chear us on y'hear?

Brooks Gremels, president of the CMRA is wanting to attract more Buell racers to the CMRA. He asked if I knew of anyone who might be able to drum up some contingencies for the CMRA next year. Anyone know anybody who might be able to do that? :) The rules for CMRA are a bit up in the air right now as we are dropping CCS and going solo, or possibly with a WERA association for 2004. But Brooks told me point blank that the CMRA would have even more classes for the Buells next year. That surprised me since this year's rules were fairly kind to Buells in the LW classes. We just need a rider who can compete with the caliber of racers like Eric Fault riding SV650's. Put Michael Sanchez on an XB9RR and let him have his way with the LW SB and LW GP classes? If that is, he sticks around to race another year with the CMRA. My guess is he'll be full time AMA next year with part time participation in CMRA next year. But who knows...

Be good,

Blake (CMRA #131 AM)
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Bluzm2
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ken,
If it hasen't already been done, install the new style primary tensioner. If your's isn't broken it will soon. See the KV Primary section for info.
The part is only about $15.00, very cheap insurance.
Also may want to pick up a shift shaft seal. It's real easy to nick during the reassembly.

Other tnan that, it's a pretty straight forward job.
Oh, and make sure you have the new style gasket, not the old style plain paper.
The new one is easier to install as it doesn't flop around. You may still want to use dowels or long 1/4 20 bolts with the head cut off to hold the gasket in place as you slide the cover back on.
Just insert the dowels in the bolt holes or screw in the headless bolts.
Then slide the gasket over the bolts/dowels, then slide the cover on.
Check out the KV section, there is lots of discussion on this topic.

Hope this helps.

Brad
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Bomber
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ken

1/4 X 20 all thread is likely available at yer hardware emporium, and it'll save you the effort of cutting the heads off of a couple of perfectly innocent bolts . . . . I've installed the gasket both dry and with sealer . . .. suffice it to say that every time I've used sealer, I've had to purchase another gasket (and lube) and install it dry . . . skip the sealer (thought Yamabond is close to being a miracle in other applications) and have at it . ..

not necessary to drop the exhaust, though covering it with aluminum foil shaped into a trough will save a little cleanup after you pull the primary

Blake -- well done . . . .good riding, good writing, and a good description of field-expediant repairs that every racer must learn to make . . .. thanks for letting us ride along with you
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Ccryder
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ken:
THe only trick I have used is to take a little wheel bearing grease and put a light film on the case gasket mounting surface. No dowels, no cut off screws, no all thread required. One thing is I trace an outline (not to scale) of the cover on cardboard and take each bolt and punch it through the cardboard at it's appropriate location. THis keeps me from being confused as to which short/ long screw goes where. Since the S2's require you to manipulate the cover to remove or install the cover, the screws always fall out.

Later
Neil S.
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S320002
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't forget to factor centrifugal (yes I said centrifugal) force into the equation. It tends overcome the reduction in radius caused by CONTACT PATCH deformation. Especially at high speeds. ;)
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Josh_
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>nice s2 on ebay

Great low miles RS went for $4200. Hmmm, how big is my garage?
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Bluzm2
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Josh, did you???
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6704&item=2433 353600

Don't look like it.
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Josh_
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No

If I hadn't bought that truck ....
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Dark_ninja
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry to ask this here, but I wasn't quite sure what forum to dump it into.

I need to replace the weatherstripping stuff that seals the airbox cover on my 98S3T. I have the new rubber gasket but I am unsure as to if I need to glue it on or not?

If I DO need to glue it to the airbox, what would an appropriate adhesive be?

Thanks for the help!
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Josh_
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good question, should probably go in the Knowledge Vault under Engine-intake.

I haven't looked, how's the old one attached?
Have you checked the SM? It might list something.
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Tripper
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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