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Flapjack
Posted on Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

SKULLY,
The coatings can handle base metal temperatures in
excess of 2000F. Color changes can be expected at lower temperatures with some of the coatings, however changes of color do not mean failure of the coating as color stability is secondary to the protective function. Most of the colors have maintained color stability in excess of 1600F base metal temperatures. Use os an under coat of extreme temperature coating can raise the temperature of color stability. The coatings are very durable and can withstand shock, acid, and salt spray. For the most part you will not be able to put enough heat in the pipes to damage them in your daily riding. Base your choice on which finish you like best. Hope this helped.
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Flapjack
Posted on Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BLAKE,
I guess what you are meaning to say--

I guess I went around my ass to get to my navel on that one but the point I was trying to make was that wrapped headers don't keep heat in the header but around it.

As for the CompCams tests I do not know the thickness of the coating however typically coatings are applied no more than .0015 thick over which there is no gain. To increase thermal barrier protection several thin coats of different coatings should be used.

The thermal barrier coating used in the test was Black Satin which is one that we use, it was applied in a single coat to the OD of the pipe only. Coating the ID of the pipe would have resulted in more dramatic results. The EGT and ST for the coated header in the last were 1530F and 930F.
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Flapjack
Posted on Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BLAKE,
I guess what you are meaning to say--

I guess I went around my ass to get to my navel on that one but the point I was trying to make was that wrapped headers don't keep heat in the header but around it.

As for the CompCams tests I do not know the thickness of the coating however typically coatings are applied no more than .0015 thick over which there is no gain. To increase thermal barrier protection several thin coats of different coatings should be used.

The thermal barrier coating used in the test was Black Satin which is one that we use, it was applied in a single coat to the OD of the pipe only. Coating the ID of the pipe would have resulted in more dramatic results. The EGT and ST for the coated header in the last were 1530F and 930F.
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Flapjack
Posted on Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

JM

I agree with Blake you might as well keep it, fix it, and ride the damn thing because a Buell doesn't seem to have any resale value now. Whatever you do good luck a stay in touch.
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Buellblast
Posted on Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just thought id let yall know what went o with mybike it ended up being the rocker box that was leakingn they ended up changing the head aftr i told them if they didnt i was gonna go buy a honda s everything worked out now does anyone know if tey make a lowering kit for the 2002 or 2003 firebolt i want one of them in the worst way but its a lil bg im on the balls of my feet need to lower it aout 1 to 2 inches any help would be appriciated thanks bullblast
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Buellblast
Posted on Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

daymn guess i should have checked the spelling sorry about that
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Buellman
Posted on Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wouldn't want to lower an XB, here's why. Lowering the front shortens the trail, lowering the rear changes the swingarm angle. Since the XB already has a short 3.3 in/83mm of trail stability could become a factor for sure and probably make it so twitchy in the front end it might be a deathtrap for you. There is a short biker website that has a list of bike seat levels and other information that might interest you: www.ki.org/sbl. Keep in mind that most sportbikes are going to be rather tall in the saddle and will be a stretch for alot of folks.

There is a good general discussion about the pros/cons (mostly cons) of lowering a motorcycle, particularly sportbikes.

http://www.fireblades.org/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=39&threadid=2780

In my opinion the XB would be my last choice to lower more than a few mm.

Brad G
Sport Twin
www.sporttwin.com
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Iamike
Posted on Tuesday, October 01, 2002 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buellblast- Just a suggestion- Use capitalizaton, punctuation and proper sentence structure (or at least try). When I see posts like yours I assume that you don't care enough to take the time to do it right, so I just skip right past it. I am not an english nazi, I just feel that we should attempt to maintain our language before no one can understand each other.

Jmartz - I have pondered the same thing for a year or so. Even at 29,000mi my '99 DDFI has run reasonably well. Every time I think of another ride I can't see getting rid of the Thunderbolt. If I do buy another bike it will most likely be a long distance tourer (ST1300) since those rides to Colorado are a bit on the rough side. But the Buell is most likely going to be a permanent fixture in the garage.
Good luck and keep in touch.

Mike
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FlapJack,

Careful, talk of bodily parts around here can get a few of the youngsters all hot and bothered. You know, like Court. :joker:

So to summarize the test results you have provided...

ParameterUncoated Coated
EGT 1,530oF1,530oF
ST 930oF930oF
RT 200oF80oF


Oops, the coated numbers you just gave for EGT and ST are the same as the uncoated ones. Mistake? Should we move the header coating discussion to its own topic on the Quick Board?


Mike, I think JM is keeping the S1. He just said he isn't going to be riding it anymore. And with no other bike this fall, he's missing out on some of the best riding of the year down here in the deep south.


Buellblast,
Three words are forming in my mind with respect to your preferred sentence syntax or the total lack thereof... "Hall of Shame" You demanded and received a new cylinder head over a rockerbox gasket leak? Did I miss something in your ordeal?
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Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 07:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

... praise in public and correct in private. If that doesn't work ... public humiliation
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Ncbueller
Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 07:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shop Manual at the house, tool man coming to work this AM.

Anyone know the size of the axle nuts on the front and rear of an X1?

Thanks

Ride Safe
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Jmartz
Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you all for your kind thoughts. I will not be getting rid of the bike it will be going into storage. At his time in my life I do not have time for all the maintenance and repairs the Buell requires to keep it running. Remeber it has gone 47,000 miles +. I will get a replacement sooner than later, no later than December 1st.
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Mbsween
Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 08:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ncBueller,

The rear (on a 2001 at least) is 36mm or 1-7/16" will also work. The 36mm is a common size , you can find it in any auto-parts store for less than 10.00.

The front looks to be 15/16" or 24mm.

Matt
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Sarodude
Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has anyone else noticed a jump in the number of VISIBLE Buells? I've gone from seen less than one a week to seeing gaggles of 'em.

What gives? Are the old tube-framers being recommissioned? Have the XB9's made it cooler in general to ride a Buell? I allmost fell over when some rather squidly UJMers looked upon my diminutive Blast with an almost comic degree of respect.

Anyway...
-Saro
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Benm2
Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone know if a tachometer from a 97 S1 will fit the wiring harness of a 2000 M2?

Ben
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Ncbueller
Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the nut sizes.

Ride Safe
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Snail
Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jmartz, at this point in your life you need something to accelerate your senses, I reccomend a Hayabusa or perhaps a Gixer 1K.

Refreshing.

Paul
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Rippin
Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike,

Just wondering if your going on the Crud Run this Sunday? I have a little group heading out of Sterling if your interested. I think Frank(Torqd) is coming up from Peoria Sat. nite to go also.

Thanks Ryan
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Snail
Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We're having a discussion on Sacborg regarding the fate of Buell motorcycle company. What do you think? Will it prosper and grow, or will it decline and die?

I think they're going down. But thats based on gut feeling, not facts. Whats your opinion, and why?

Paul
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Tat
Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hello Buellers,

ASB here, we just wanted to send out a special thank you to all who made ASB's 4th Annual BBQ/Bike Show/Ride a big success. This year was our biggest turn out ever with over 100 Buellers gathered from near and far.

To all of our customers who showed up, it wouldn't have been possible without you. It was a pleasure meeting those of you we've never met before and it was great to catch up with those of you we already knew.

The BBQ wouldn't have happened without the help of several people leading rides to the BBQ-so we'd like to thank Jerry from Oceanside-Harley's House of Harley's, Larry who led a ride out of San Diego H.D./Buell and Chris and Ernie from Glendale H.D./Buell for getting everyone here in one piece. We'd also like to thank everyone else that dedicated some extra time to volunteer. The assistance was very much appreciated and needless to say, helped keep things running smooth. And last but not least on the list of thanks, is all of the vendors that participated by donating prizes for our raffle. We gave away over 80 prizes worth over $2800-not bad odds!

Thanks again and keep an eye out for more new parts coming for the XB9R, XB9S, and V-Rod.
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Captpete
Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Flapjack,

Tried to send you an email via your profile address, and it bounced back??

Capt. Pete
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Snail
Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't everyone answer my question about the longevity of Buell motor company at once, it makes it hard to read all the posts!

Paul
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Rick_A
Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's like beating a dead horse. That topic has been gone over too many times. A lot of people say yes, but the statistics have shown constant growth. I personally don't worry about it at all.
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Iamike
Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ryan-
I was planning on going until I was reminded that I had agreed to chaperone a church paintball game then. If there wasn't so much 4-lane between here & Madison it would be more tempting. Dave S. from Waterloo Buell will be bringing a group. I think that he has several going.
I had just put some new tires on to get ready for the ride and broke them in last sunday when it was 80 degrees. My neighbor & I ran around NE Iowa on the curves for awhile until my pager went off and I had to go to work.
We all need to get together next spring for a weekend of curves. There are so many good roads up in that area that I need to try out.
Hope you have good weather this year.
Mike
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Roc
Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Long live the tube frames!
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Snail
Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rick A, I missed it. Probably not worth digging through the archives, (shudder).

Maybe I should have asked how many people on this site are disillusioned with Buell and are buying different brands? I know some consider Sacborg to be the site for whiners, but what about realistic assessments? Is Buell a sacred cow?

Paul
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Raymaines
Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Amen brother Roc, Amen! Tubers unite! Buy that S1W while you still can. They’re going to get scarce and the price will be going up. This sounds funny, but I think that '99 - '02 M2's will prove to be very good investments too.

Paul: BMC will last as long as the mother company wants it to. The way Buell is currently going I don’t think they could survive on their own but with HDI’s money they don’t have to. The ongoing and never ending supply of outside money takes BMC out of any normal business survival model and your question becomes invalid and Buell’s survival becomes a moot point. Not that it matters but I'm currently the proud owner of a 2002 Triumph Sprint RS.
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Iamike
Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For the type of riding I do on mostly straight roads, the firebolt is too small. It's fun to ride and wouldn't be a bad 2nd bike but I'm more into the bigger touring type rides than the small corner eaters. Also being 6'1" I like to have a bike that I can wear my riding pants without having to lift my feet onto the pegs with my hands.
We'll just have to see what Buell has for us tourers in the future. I'm in no hurry to get rid of the T-bolt.
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José_Quiñones
Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Easy Rider sequel under way

let the product placement bidding wars begin!
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José_Quiñones
Posted on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Edwards To Boats?
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