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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep,
Used to do something similar with a Colt muzzle loader. poof "fun" poofofsmoke "fun" kaboom and a whole cloud of smoke "Whoa wow holy crap do it again".
But that mixing up rounds is a good way to get someone to stop flinching when target shooting. It's also a good way to have them accidently shoot the floor when they anticipate the recoil of a full load and pop off a standard load and pre-flinch dropping the barrel.
Dang it, got to get out the 7mmMag now. Got an 835 as well, haven't put one shell thru it yet though.
MikeJ (Calling the storage guy for access to the toy box.)
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Jima4media
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mikej,

If you clean your barrel with synthetic oil it will reduce the contact patch by 31%, and all is well. ;-)

Jim
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Road_Thing
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jim, that's no good. Synthetic oil is too slippery, the bullet skids on the lands of the rifling. You get no twist, the bullets get flat spots and accuracy suffers...

r-t
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Aaron
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really like my 835, it's my main "pest control" weapon. Damn hard to miss a pesky skunk or rattlesnake with it. I hardly ever shoot the big magnum shells, just don't need that kind of power for most stuff and the somebitch puts bruises on my shoulder when I shoot them things. I also have an 18" Winchester pistol grip 12ga, that's my home protection weapon. Shotguns are great. I have an assortment of handguns and a few politically incorrect so-called "assault" weapons, but the shotguns are really the most useful, at least until the revolution . The 7mm mag is a damn powerful round, don't own one but I've shot'em. Very impressive.
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Jrh
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guns???Why not a moose antler club or a trebuchet?Club em + fling em?
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Andrew
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ever try flechette (sp?) rounds on snakes and rodents??
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Lake_Bueller
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Conversion question....

How do you convert or compare torque in Newton meters to foot pounds?

I'm trying to set up a comparision to the new XB9S to Euro nake bikes.

Thanks,

Mennis
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Jrh
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh,i thought you were talking about the creeps that got Loki's bike,not little critters.
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Blastin
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mennis,

I can't recall off the top of my head what the conversion factor is, but there a ton of conversion sites on the web. Just type "metric torque conversion" and search.
Try this one: conversion

1ft-lb = 1.3558 N-m

That sounds right to me, but I haven't done those conversions in a while. (If I just had my calculator here at work, saved my kiester more than once on a test)

Jerry
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Firemanjim
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jim in SB,that sounds like a 1996 S-2.One of mine is built 7/94( has old odd ball serial #) other is 3/95 serial # 0000036--or some such.I thought it was a very low # bike until I got the other--it ends in 256,but built 9 months earlier.Erik explained to me at SD that they never thought they would build more than 999 of them and wouldn,t need more #'s.
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"How do you convert or compare torque in Newton meters to foot pounds? "
I just turn my torque wrench over and read the other side.
MikeJ(I'm in trouble now.)
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Blastin
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not trying to get everyone too excited here.
I was talking to a salesman at the dealership last night about the XB9S. I asked if they would be in the showroom Novemberish. He said that while on the phone to someone in the know, that it would be more like Septemberish. It could be complete rumor, but it would be great if they could get it done. Deliver early and surprise everyone.


**Only personal opinion** I beleive that Buell is also working on something that is WICKED COOL:) for release in the next year or two. (and you thought the XB was way out there) I can't put my finger on any one thing, but I beleive that it is coming. It just makes sense in my mind. **Again just personal opinion, nothing to back anything up**

Jerry
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Scottcolbath
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks guys.

Last night we got the preload properly set up and worked a little on setting the damping. The bike feels much more solid now. What I was interpreting as a harsh ride prior to this work being done was likely the bike's rear suspension bottoming out. That's gone.

I do wonder though, after riding a Moto Guzi V-11 Scura last Friday, if my S3 can ever handle as well as that bike. It's equipped with Ohlins components front and rear, and it handles like a cat on carpet. A wonderful ride.

What is the general opinion amongst the group on just how good you can get the S3 suspension set up?

Regards,
Scott
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Scottcolbath
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Question:

Are there any Phoenix area Buell owners on this list?

S.C.
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I beleive that Buell is also working on something that is WICKED COOL..."

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Scottcolbath
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blastin writes:
> **Only personal opinion** I beleive that Buell
> is also working on something that is WICKED
> COOL for release in the next year or two. (and
> you thought the XB was way out there) I can't
> put my finger on any one thing, but I beleive
> that it is coming. It just makes sense in my
> mind. **Again just personal opinion, nothing to
> back anything up**

I surely hope they have something good up their sleeves. I think this year was something of a letdown. I was hoping for something to replace the M2 and S3/S3T. What we got was another bike that is just too close to the same thing as the Firebolt. That's not bad, just not as much as I had hoped for.

S.C.
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Wruffus
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm looking for information on putting front mirrors with turn signal lights in them on my S3. I know I saw this documented on a BB or web site, but I can't find it. Anyone remember the location?
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dateline: (New York City)

COURT EATS WORDS......AGAIN!


I said the Buell XB9R Service Manual was"pricey" inferring that it was overpriced.

Last night I opened it up and hereby irrevocably revoke all prior misrepresentations.....it is a service manual without peer.

My compliments to the Technical Publications Group at Harley-Davidson.

Everything within, from paper quality to photogrpahs, is EXCELLENT.

If you OWN (or have on order) and XB9R buy this. If you don't I'd order this....great way to see how things are changing at Buell if you are short the entry price of a 9R or 9S.

In Stock at Topeka and likely Modesto.

Court
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Scottcolbath
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wruffus writes:

> I'm looking for information on putting front
> mirrors with turn signal lights in them on my
> S3. I know I saw this documented on a BB or web
> site, but I can't find it. Anyone remember the
> location?

Sounds cool, but what I would love to see is the turn signals incorporated into the mesh grill thingies in the fairing and tail sections of the S3. That would make the bike much cleaner looking and be real trick too.

S.C.
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Lake_Bueller
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

S.C.-
I've seen that done a couple of different ways.

1) Leave the existing grill. Behind the grill, mount some orange LED lights running off the existing turn signal wiring. (Don't forget to fill & paint the front fair holes)

2) Remove the grill. Fabricate some lenses from some orange turn signal plastic (get a couple of junk yard lenses). Wire lights behind the plastic.

I personally like Wruffus' idea for the front. Sort of like the new Mercades:)

I'm going to work on modifying the rear of my S3T over the winter. I'm planning on making a "quick change" bag bracket for the saddlebags. Then fender elimination and light relocation.

Let me know if anyone finds some mirror with turn signal incorporated.
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Blastin
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There were to XB9R service manuals sitting on the shelf at Hal's last night. Man are those things thick.
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Blastin
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anybody heard from BuellieDan? If I remember correctly he was moving a while ago, but that was a couple weeks back.
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Loki
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PhillyB,

Just waiting on the word to travel again. looking at the mid-month(aug) time frame. This could really mess up this insurance thing.....

Now if the rumor is true that the 9S may be in in sept then I got some thinking to do.....
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Xgecko
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

September may be true I asked my dealer yesterday about he 9S and he said that their's were "on the way" which for hawaii means they are in a slow boat as we speak.
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Peter
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Beginning of September is the word for brochures and bikes in Amsterdam.
PPiA
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Budo
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All of this gun talk! Makes me wonder about you guys. Alot of info on stopping power can be found here, www.evanmarshall.com . I think the .357 is still number one at something like 97% one shot stops, almost a death ray. That is with 125gr. ammo. I have often wondered about that. Why that weight bullet & velocity. Probably something to do with the cross sectional density, velocity, hydrostatic shock, ballestic coefficent, etc.....
Bottom line is, that round falls into what I call a window of mortality. That is it is a particularly fatal or effective round, depending on your perspective. Anyone having fired a .357 with 125gr. ammo knows it has a bark. Sure there are rounds that have more recoil and or muzzle blast. But few are more effective. Tho having said all of that I really like the .45acp. The nice thing about 200gr hollow points is they don't have to expand, they are big when they get there. If they do expand, bonus! Court has been shot/stabbed several times. He should write a book.
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Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Who says he hasn't. Pseudonyms are a wonderfull aspect of the writer's world.
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Jim_Sb
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FMJ, my VIN # ends with ...000005

Perhaps it's '96 model year #5? I dunno. I was just surprised when I noticed the '95S2CA 34/86' designation on the ignition/timing cover.

Jim in Santa Barbara
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Rattler
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

***I do the same trick with my Mossberg 835 12 gauge, some light target loads followed by a 3-1/2" magnum load. Really an interesting contrast.***

Hehehe...you are a devilish fella eh Aaron!

Dale A.
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Roc
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Subject: More Statistics (Blatantly Off-Topic)


Good health might be due mostly to good luck:

a. The number of physicians in the US is 700,000.

b. Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year is 120,000.

c. Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.

(Source: US Dept. of Health & Human Services)



By comparison:

a. The number of gun owners in the US is 80,000,000.

b. The number of accidental gun deaths per year (all age groups) is 1,500.

c. The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is 0.0000188.

Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners!



FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR.



Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors before this gets out of hand. As a public health measure I have withheld the statistics on lawyers for fear that the shock could cause people to seek medical attention.

I recieved this as an emial from my Dad the other day, interesting.
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